Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Stabbing on Pemberton / Wightman Road
He also had a very resigned look and said it was happening every day all over London but the powers that be don't seem to care.
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Permalink Reply by Antoinette on
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With the greatest of respect, Eugene, I don't think you can possibly have any perception of what it feels like to be constantly sexually harassed. I personally feel quite relieved that as a middle aged duck I no longer get that kind of attention. But I see misogynistic and homophobic (less) behaviour every day on Green Lanes and at levels I've not seen in other supposedly rougher areas of London I've lived in. I challenge these men every time I see it. What I wish is that more men would challenge that behaviour when they see it....I saw a young man say, very politely, to a guy making a nuisance of himself "don't talk to the young lady like that....would you want someone to do that to your sister or mother?" Seemed much more effective coming from a man.
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Permalink Reply by EMC2 on
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With the greatest of respect, Antoinette, I wasn't addressing the misogyny and sexual harassment aspect of this thread, but commenting on the violent crime theme, and perceptions of it, in the wider area. At least that's what I think I was doing...
I grew up in N Ireland in the 60s and 70s and I think I have some understanding of what it is to suffer "harassment" and that, while I can't "feel" it, I can empathise with women subject to sexual harassment. As it happens I saw a lout roaring out his car window at a young woman on Tottenham Lane as he sped by just the other day. She was wearing headphones and seemed oblivious but I *felt* like punching him, although, of course, I never would...
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Odd discussion.
Highlighting an event is the purpose of the site.
Saying you may leave an area is both your right and perfectly normal.
Pointing out that speculation is often unhelpful and inaccurate a fact.
For what it's worth the area seems reasonably safe. But that isn't really the point. If it can be made safer then it should. And we all have a duty to help that out. Each aspect of the above themes does this. The gangs are an issue outside Turnpike Lane. And if left unchecked will cause real problems, it's good the police are on this.
I think Kats comments about being leered at are shocking. This is something I hope can be addressed.
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Permalink Reply by Laura W on
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I agree. Odd to start having a go at someone because they don't necessarily see the area the way others might like to see it. it's perfectly valid for people to point out how they feel and if they feel safe/unsafe and why. And to report incidents that happen. Telling people they should be careful of mentioning crimes and jumping all over them when they do seems all a bit 'post truth' to me...perhaps avoid such threads if you'd rather not hear about any?
From my experience of living in various places across London, it's not always the safest feeling area actually, esp late at night re people hanging round, but then most areas in London have their own brand of dodgy and I'm pretty used to it now. I've lived in places I've felt less comfortable (Streatham Hill during the daytime, oddly enough) and more comfortable. But then perhaps that's because this is the only place in London I've ever been mugged, which is mainly down to luck, I know. Anyway, one brand of dodgy you certainly do particularly notice round here is the street leeriness levels, so not shocked at all Kat feels that way. There have been quite a few threads on it previously...
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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"Highlighting an event is the purpose of the site." <- no, the purppose of this site was to bring people together.
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Well then can we have a feed from the New River Village's Facebook page? They have a lot to say about the behaviour meted out to single women at Turnpike Lane Station.
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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"If it can be made safer then it should. And we all have a duty to help that out."
I think this is an interesting comment. I am not having a dig at you DTW, but I hope you will allow me to highlight the "someone must do something" nature of this comment. We have all said it, but the question is, how many of us have ever actually done anything about it. For all the folks who have commented here, or read this post, how many of us have the Our Harringay app (and use it), or challenge a shop keeper for tossing their rubbish into the street instead of taking a broom to the mess on the footpath outside their shop, or challenged someone littering, or (if we have the guts, and heaven forbid we need to) step in if we see someone being assaulted. Even worse, how many of us voted in our elected politicians, local and national or been to one of their surgeries to tell them their in that forum what we are all thinking and saying here?
The point is, we all moan and groan and the biggest factor in doing something is to make your voice heard- not just shout into the internet. The more voices, the more something will be done.
I heard something interesting yesterday on the radio about pensions (yer, I know). There is no wonder there is a 'triple lock' around pensions that guarantee pensions will rise by the minimum of various indicators -and at least 2.5%- in an age when most working benefits are not even keeping pace with inflation. The fact is pensioners are very active in lobbying and are more likely than younger voters to vote. They make themselves heard!
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