Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
some love for Harringay station in the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/10/pandemic-trai...
(and available in tomorrow's paper if you prefer ink to pixels)
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Permalink Reply by Nick G-T on
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Like many others, Catherine Shoard did not own a car prior to the pandemic and inadvertently highlights what is set to become a serious issue on our streets in the coming months. If you would like to help campaign for a low traffic neighbourhood for the Ladder, you can join here.
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You cannot blame people who are scared of going on public transport currently can you? Doubt you can take their worries away with your campaign because unless there's a vaccine or improvement I doubt people will stop buying cars. We didn't use to own a car but now we do because I want to protect my children too. Currently it outweighs whatever car issues there are locally.
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My point of linking an old article was to show how attitudes to motor vehicle ownership have changed due to the pandemic. Low Traffic Neighbourhood's are not intended to stop residents from owning a car (though it may impact people's decisions on ownership), but to reduce high levels of through traffic and improve air quality. With increased car ownership, the sad reality is the numbers of excess deaths in London from air pollution, currently around 9,400 year, will only increase.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Have you been on the tube or a train recently? I had a carriage to myself on both last week.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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I took the tube to and from Heathrow last Wednesday. Social distancing and masking observed by all.
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Good for you.
I've been on the tube a few months ago and the bus a few times recently and there are still clowns on the bus sitting next to you without a mask, busses were full with not enough distancing so that was enough reason for me to decide on a car for the protection of myself and my family incl my elderly mother who needs me to run errands for her sometimes so I need to be very careful. A few weeks ago there was a discussion on the 141 back from London Bridge where the passengers were expressing their distrust in the government because they think Covid is made up to keep us all under their thumb so they're definitely not wearing a mask. There were around 6 people of different backgrounds involved and I was genuinely baffled. Like I'd ended up in a Seinfeld episode gone wrong or something.
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Are car owners on Wightman Rd all wealthy ? Or is Ms Shoard prejudiced against the wealthy, cars or both ? It's the Guardian so I think we can guess. We don't park on the pavement any more so the article is outdated.
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This is about the article in Phil's post, not the article from a few years ago which Nick is referring to.
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Permalink Reply by Cathy on
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Nigel Harris from Rail Magazine makes a convincing case that travelling by rail is safe:
“New research from RSSB (Rail Safety and Standards Board) shows that in a typical UK train, you have around a 1-in-11,000 chance of catching COVID-19. This reflects German research by DB (Deutsche Bahn, German Railways) which concluded: “To our knowledge, not a single contact tracing has been identified in Germany and Austria as having been triggered by an infection on the train journey.” This research also found that infection was less likely in air-conditioned carriages rather than non-AC vehicles and that no infections occurred on board trains in a journey of less than then hours. Also, said DB: “In airplanes, as in trains and buses, transmission seems to occur only rarely.”
[…] A vigorous, well thought-out campaign is needed with a clearly communicated, simple message that trains are inviting, safe and ready for passengers. If such a campaign worked half as well as ‘stay at home’ we’d have the job done!”
Rail Magazine 12-25 August 2020
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