Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Should other Haringey residents give Local MPs their personal views on the Gaza Tragedy?
I've begun composing letters to our local MPs David Lammy and Catherine West about today's BBC news on Gaza and linked issues. I suggest that other HoL members consider writing or emailing independently with their own personal messages, with their thoughts and feelings on the topic.
To be precise the news item I listened to also referred to the expected visit to London of the President of Israel. It reported too, on a massive leaflet drop on Gaza City calling on all residents to move south to a supposed "safe" area. Despite this news bulletin describing the lack of water and food there. Also reports from a few Gaza City residents that they have family members physically unable to move.
That news bulletin also included "experts" who claimed that Israel was not practising genocide. And that the Israeli Attack Forces were targeting buildings and not people.
To be fair to the BBC's own journalist, she did press hard on these various "expert" claims.
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Permalink Reply by Iris Allan
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Today is September 11th, a reminder of what the Islamist terrorists stand for and why Israel is fighting them. We arm and support the Israelis because they are fighting on our behalf.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton
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I'm typing this on ll September around 11am. I'm very disappointed that some contributors to this thread have not avoided personal insults. (Though personally I am too old to bother in the slightest about people calling me silly names.)
At the same time, I am pleased that people have been honest in frankly revealing their emotions and biases. Hopefully that enables us all to read and understand our neighbours a little better.
Although I'm unsure of the point in continuing this thread much further. I hope Hugh as our admin will consider leaving it here as a record and source for future learning. If nothing else we can now have doubts about former UK politicians expressing "unequivocal support for Israel". And why bombing a peace conference is insane.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter
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… personal insults. ~ it was Margaret Thatcher who said,
I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.
And, it's sometimes said (often misattributed to Churchill) that The first casualty of war is truth ~
In this context, we can prefer to believe journalists (and outside organisations), or to believe statements from a government at war with some of its neighbours.
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The rabid attacks on the inital post, totally disregard the 64,000 Palestinan dead, mostly civilian, and hundreds of thousands displaced in the genocidal attacks of the two years since the October 7th attack (in which BTW 1200 - not thousands - died, a third military and two-thirds civilians), and the decades of illegal occupation, expulsion, dispossession, and oppression of Palestinian Arab Christians and Muslims that preceded it. They reflect the way in which how, sadly, many angry people moved by hateful prejudice are falling for the dangerous counterfactual nonsense pumped out, on this and other issues, by today's equivalent of the demagogues and ideologies that gave us the Nazis and Fascists in the 1920s and 1930s. I wish there was a vaccine that injected humanity into such people. And yes, do write to your MPs.
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re 'hate marches'.
On all of the marches in support of Palestinians and against the war in Gaza hundreds of Jews and Jewish organisations lead the marches. In the recent arrest of 800+ people in London for holding a card saying "I oppose genocide, I support Palestine Action" Jews volunteered to be arrested. Those present include "Holocaust survivors and descendants of Holocaust survivors" group, and many others.
Ive tried to upload photos but not having any luck.
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