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Reply from council about rough sleepers in Harringay and rubbish dumping in Green Lanes

A couple of weeks ago I emailed the council to ask how they were planning to tackle the issue of the increasing number of homeless people in the area. I also flagged that lately Green Lanes and the streets around it seem to be more dirty than usual, with lots of rubbish scattered around.

This is the reply I received from the council, if anyone is interested.

The council is aware of the growing number of homeless people in Haringey and is endeavouring to address this issue on a number of fronts. We are working in partnership with a wide range of services to identify areas affected by rough sleepers and to take appropriate action to address these problems. The Anti-Social Behaviour Action Team (ASBAT) work very closely with Thamsereach, who provide the outreach services (Streetlink) to people sleeping on the street; immediate referrals are made which are usually responded to promptly by StreetLink – the designated outreach service. Members of the public can also make referrals to Streetlink using the weblink below:-

http://www.streetlink.org.uk/or you can call them on 0300 500 0914

The ASBAT are also working closely with the local police teams and Immigration Enforcement. We are currently involved in a series of operations targeting sites where there are individuals sleeping rough who are not exercising their treaty rights and could face deportation. Thamesreach are also involved in these operation to enable appropriate support and advice to be given to those eligible for housing assistance. Please do contact the ASB reporting line with any information regarding rough sleepers in the Harringay ward, we are collating this information and will add any new individuals and/or sites to our list for future operations.

We have been advised by other residents and businesses, that a number of individuals sleeping in Green Lanes are also begging, again we are working with the Harringay Safer Neighbourhood Team around identifying these individuals and it is very important that members of the public call the police as and when any begging is occurring. The police need to witness the begging and/or have witness statements identifying the beggars to justify enforcement action. If you should witness any begging in Green Lanes please do call the police on 101.

With regard to your concerns about the rubbish in Green Lanes, unfortunately the council has had to make changes to the street sweeping regime on all residential roads in the borough from twice weekly sweeps to once weekly. However Green Lanes itself is swept twice daily, as the sweeping of main roads and town centres has not changed. The Neighbourhood Action Team officer also monitors the area on a regular basis and any illegal dumping of waste is reported to Veolia who will remove within 24 hours. Members of the public can also report dumped rubbish or missed scheduled road sweeping via the Council’s website http://www.haringey.gov.uk/contact/report-it. Alternatively please contact theVeolia Haringey Contact Centre:-
Tel: 020 8885 7700
Email: enquiries.haringey@veolia.com

I appreciate this may not be the response you were hoping for, but trust that it does highlight the work we are doing to address your areas of concerns.

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It also says :  The police  need to witness the begging and/or have witness statements identifying the beggars to justify enforcement action. 

But personally I wouldn't feel safe getting involved in reporting anyone to the police, given I live in the area...and a few of the rough sleepers seem to know each other well. The police should just hang around more often and try to deal with this as well as the drug dealers.

So you asked them what they are going to do to tackle the issue, but don't want to do what they say to help them tackle it, nice.

Fining homeless people when they would need to go back out to beg to pay the fine doesn't strike you as a teensy weensy bit perverse?

Well obviously, but I was more addressing the complaint that the police aren't doing anything then basically saying that he won't help them do anything about it either.

Anton is a she by the way.
No. I think it's ridiculous that we are asked to do something the council and the police should take care of. And if I ask the council what they are planning to do to tackle this problem I mean it in the grand scale. Reporting a beggar doesn't solve the issue or help them in anyway.
Thanks for the update Anton and Neil

The streets on Green lanes are filthy. Ive sent pictures to council but no response. Rubbish is everywhere on the ladder. There is always rubbish and takeaway stuff dumped about 2 meters up Beresford road (behind the electric box) but looks like they ignore this on the twice daily sweep "work to rule" its not on green lanes.

Use the "Our Haringey" app to report it.  I use it on Effingham Road and the rubbish is removed within 24 hours.

They are saying that rough sleeping is the fault of the rough sleepers and they will target them ?

I think they have their priorities wrong.

They ( the Council and not the voluntary agencies  ) should be working to provide accommodation, not running the homeless out of town.

Hear hear!!!

They are also insinuating some of these people are illegal immigrants...hmmm...just blame the immigrants for everything (the latest trend in politics).

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