And what are they wanting?
Thanks for the link, I shall investigate.
There's a bit of moaning, yes. But when a few thousand people get together on say Twitter for example, it counts as a protest. Just me walking down the road asking for justice is still only moaning.
As Hannie P said.
Many of the posters were about the Turkish mining disaster and there were chants for 'justice', which is completely reasonable.
How is this, on Green Lanes, gonna do them any good?
Sorry can't link.
Sam B-How is this, on Green Lanes, gonna do them any good?
1/The video link/ tweets of the demonstration will go back to show solidarity to a hard pressed community.
2/The actual protest itself produces solidarity among those taking part and perhaps people in this area.
3/ The Turkish government through its embassy will know about this and not like it.
4/ Sometimes it may seem futile but when faced with an oppressive government you just have to get out wherever you are and shout.
John "few thousand people get together on say Twitter for example, it counts as a protest. Just me walking down the road asking for justice is still only moaning."
"Just you walking down the street asking for justice is still only moaning", These protesters have a valid cause- they are not just "moaning", and anyway there were hundreds of people and some would have been tweeting the event back to Turkey to show solidarity, which counts for more than sitting in your bedroom alone spouting on line.
Twitter may add to a campaign but where does it go from there? To direct action, i.e physically protesting perhaps to change things? Anyone involved in protesting in Turkey is not unaware of the role of twitter as an organising tool in say the Taksim Square demonstrations and in the dissemination of news and photographs from the demonstrators to news agencies, however IMO Twitter is not the protest. http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/06/201361212350593971...
I took it a little personally that I'm just the type to sit in my room and protest, if it bothers me I do go for more direct action. I get this but walking into a group of people chatting and accusing them of moaning was effectively what was done here. Way before that protest there was some "moaning"...
When people peacefully protest, others say 'what good will it do?' When they take up arms, they are called 'terrorists'. We have witnessed huge mass protests around the world recently but rarely do leaders give in to democratic demands. In Syria, Egypt, Libya, demands for freedom were met with bullets. We need to build mass democratic organisations that are controlled by the membership. What is scary about UKIP is that huge numbers are voting for a bunch of proto fascists who will do whatever they want as UKIP is in no way controlled by its members. Sadly, the same is true for Labour. The Greens are democratic and I have hopes for Left Unity. We should be supporting those who are pointing the finger at Erdogan and his rich friends who have profited from the appalling conditions in Turkish mines.
Yes. Does anyone know who is buying the coal that was being mined there?
When I saw the headline, I thought you were talking about the mess outside the Salisbury
Allons, enfants de la Turquie ...
Marchons ! marchons !....