Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Population growth in Harringay - 2001 -> 2011
Looking at this map that was in the Guardian...
It has these statistics for the top of the ladder:
2011 LSOA Code: E01001998
The 2011 boundaries for the selected area are the samecompared with 2001 boundaries - more information
| 2001 | 2011 | |
|---|---|---|
| Population | 1539 | 2058 |
| Population density (100s per km2) | 99 | 132.5 |
| People aged 0-15 (%) | 11.6 | 12.3 |
| People aged 16-64 (%) | 77.6 | 79 |
| People aged 65 (%) | 10.8 | 8.6 |
| Median age | 32 | 31 |
| Old age dependency ratio1 | 7.2 | 9.1 |
| Dependency ratio2 | 3.5 | 3.8 |
1. Number of people aged 16-64 for every person aged 65+
2. Number of people aged 16-64 for every person aged 0-16 and 65+
Source: 2001, 2011 Census
Which show that the population increased by A THIRD from 2001 to 2011... Gobsmacked!
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Permalink Reply by David on
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this is hardly surprising. i live with my flatmate and his girlfriend, and none of us could afford to live separately (in spite of the fact that we all have graduate jobs). in fact, in 2001, my room would probably have been defined as a cupboard.
i don't mean to complain about the housing we have (because it is very cheap for london), but just to point out that Harringay is become a normal inner-London area.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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John, that's excluding anyone who - for various reasons - didn't want to be found and counted.
David, "hutches" was the word always used by Steve King a former councillor and Tottenham Hale resident. I've referred since then to "hutching" - the process of turning homes into the cupboards you mention.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Overall, John the area I roughly defined as Harringay a few years back has seen a smaller increase. In 2001 it had a population of just under 16,500. In 2011, population stands at just under 19,000, an increase of about 17%, almost the exact same as the growth borough wide.
My stats are done by Output area, rather than LSOA to get it to more closely map to Harringay. The references for the OAs I used are listed in the footnotes of my Wikipedia article.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Well if you had a 17% increase for all of Harringay and the top third had 33%....
2011 LSOA Name: Haringey 031A
2011 LSOA Code: E01002000The 2011 boundaries for the selected area are the samecompared with 2001 boundaries - more information
2001 2011 Population 1613 1697 Population density (100s per km2) 99.8 104.9 People aged 0-15 (%) 16.7 16.5 People aged 16-64 (%) 74.6 75.3 People aged 65 (%) 8.7 8.2 Median age 31 32 Old age dependency ratio1 8.5 9.1 Dependency ratio2 2.9 3 1. Number of people aged 16-64 for every person aged 65+
2. Number of people aged 16-64 for every person aged 0-16 and 65+
That's for the middle of the ladder but not Green Lanes.
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Taking an initial look at the Guardian map last night, I didn't find it the easiest tool to use straight-off. So I'd welcome any hints and tips from other HoL members who've been digging into it. I'd be especially interested to hear from anyone looking at the data from a specialised perspective. For example, a school head/governor thinking about places. Or perhaps local businesses considering changes in both numbers and age distribution of potential customers within walking distance.
It's interesting to us - as two councillors - that we got to hear about this via HoL, rather than as a useful alert from the Council's own "Planning, Regeneration & Economy" Service. On the other hand, since they are incapable of even reporting their own statistics accurately, maybe that's just as well.
(Tottenham Hale ward councillor)
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There has been a baby boom in London since 2000, accelerating in 2005. Councils are unable to buy land for new schools because they can't afford it, they're also unable to expand existing schools because the teachers, parents and governors resist them. I think a big bloody secondary school in the middle of Finsbury Park would be good, perhaps over where they wanted to build the five-a-side football. Downhills park next.
Alan, perhaps the council's "Planning, Regeneration & Economy" service should have been cut rather than some of the other, less sexy thing that were, eh?
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Actually, John I thought the plan was to evict you and hand over your house to Lord Broadloom to be turned into a traditional Dame School run by Lady Dhurrie. Apparently there have been some promising early projects with Dame Schools in Australia. You may know of some in New Zealand.
I've no idea whether or not the Planning and linked services were trimmed and tucked. At one meeting I asked the Dear Leader for organograms showing different departments before-&-after cuts. Cllr Kober confirmed that she had these but said I couldn't have copies. Presumably this was because like almost everything in Haringey it was top-secret confidential stuff to be kept away from the prying eyes of non-cabinet councillors and, of course, ordinary residents. So she could tell me, but would then have to kill me.
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It would be interesting to see what taxpayer/benefits % and free school meals % are for 2001 and 2011 as that would give an indication of whether population growth here equals increased poverty or not. Guess this may not be numbers our deal council would release....
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Permalink Reply by Ruth on
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I am not at all gobsmacked by the increase.
It is so tangible on the increasingly crowded Green Lanes, when somtimes you can barely get by there are so many people coming and going or standing outside the restaurants having their fags (sorry that is not a moan against smokers, I wish they had some space inside to smoke...) Pavement etiquette leaves a lot to be desired on these mean streets sometimes. The place just feels a lot more packed than before also the public transport esp buses, often pushed and shoved when getting on.
Sorry to be negative but I feel the more people are packed into an area, the less comfortable it becomes and the quality of life is affected.
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I take immense satisfaction from these figures. Either those of us over 65 are an even more rapidly dying breed than I'd suspected - or perhaps we're just migrating to Muswell Hill and Hampstead.
But since there's an ever growing number of you full-time worker b's ever more willing to support my declining years in a modicum of comfort, maybe I should just cancel my Council Tax and not bother moving to Bishop's Avenue.
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