Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Parking confusion in GL A and GL B zones
I emailed the council this week to double check that if I could park in a GL A zone with my GL B residents permit, this is the reply I got:
"Your Resident permit for the Green Lanes B Controlled Parking Zone only allows you to park in the roads within the Green Lanes B Controlled Parking Zone. The Green Lanes A Controlled Parking Zone operates from 8am-6:30pm Monday-Saturday.
If your vehicle is observed parked within the Green Lanes A Controlled Parking Zone then you may be issued with a Penalty Charge Notice."
I am sure I had asked the council this question about 6 months ago and was told I could park in either zone, sadly I can't find that email. I've asked a few friends and they seem to think that they'd had a letter when GL B was added into the CPZ scheme and it was sold as an extension to GL A and it was fine to park in both.
Does anyone know more about this, and if it has changed why it was changed?
Tags for Forum Posts: green lanes zones a & b, parking
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Permalink Reply by JulieB on
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Ah ha, the plot thickens I've done some more searching through emails and found this one dated 8th February 2011:
"Thank you for your email.
I confirm that you can park in the Green Lanes A Controlled Parking Zone with a Green Lanes B resident’s permit and vice versa."
This was from exactly the same person in parking that sent me the 'no you can't' email this week.
I've just emailed them again attaching my February email and asking them why the answer has changed, if the rules have changed and why we weren't told.
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Permalink Reply by Joe Bailey on
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Odder and odder. When the zones launched, all permits just had GL as the CPZ zone. The signs, however, had a distinction between A and B.
As time went on, permits started to get either A or B, depending upon where you lived. And I'm pretty sure that you cannot use a GL A CPZ badge in B, and vice versa.
Indeed, in the snow of a few years back, when I couldn't get up the road, I nearly had to park in the other zone, and was told I shouldn't, or would have to contest tickets. That was before the council allowed a free-for-all for stranded cars.
Perhaps you could email Ms Cunningham who heads up this department. Or you could call for her on 020 8489 0000 and ask for her by name. She's answered the phone personally on the last couple of calls I made - perhaps she doesn't have a PA anymore following cuts etc..
I'd be VERY interested to see the outcome - I live right on the border.
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I'd be keen to take a look into this - I'm trying to get my around the CPZ situation at the moment. If you fancy forwarding the two emails to dhardiman@london.newsquest.co.uk I'll see if I can find out what the truth actually is!
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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I have always understood CPZ A can park in CPZ B. Would be keen to know if this is incorrect or not as I was one of the people who moved my car to the Gardens after watching 6 cars smash into each other within inches of mine during the snow last year. I would note I was never ticketed...
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Permalink Reply by RussellV on
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Just to say we got a ticket for parking in GLB zone with a GLA permit about 18 months ago- we were given a working day before the ticket was issued but forgot to move it back to zone A!
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Permalink Reply by Tim B on
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The council staff on parking are appalling. I'd moved in the area some years back and phoned and checked whether I needed to change my permit. I asked three times for absolute clarification and was firmly told I didn't have to. Came back to my car a couple of days later to find it had been towed and I'd got nearly £200 of fines to pay and would have incurred more had I not there and then.
Wrote to the local councillor and they helped put a priority on my challenge so I got an early reply: 'Dear Mr. Bayley, We have no record of that conversation and therefore you are liable to pay the fine in full'.
Basically the council are at liberty not to train their staff to be able to provide the required information and penalise residents because of it.
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Just had an email reply from parking:
"I have discussed this matter with the Correspondence Manager, Colin Morgan who has confirmed that as a Green Lanes B Resident permit holder you can park in the Green Lanes A Controlled Parking Zone, even on a Saturday, as long as you are displaying a valid Resident permit.
I am sorry for any confusion caused in my previous email of the 13th October 2011."
So we can park in either - although I agree it sounds like not everyone at the parking department or traffic wardens know this. So I'm thinking of printing off my email and sticking it in my window if I do go and park in GLA.
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Permalink Reply by Alison P on
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Does that mean people who got tickets for parking in the 'wrong' zone should ask for a refund? Am bewildered.
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Clearly the parking department are confused, and if people have been issued tickets some traffic wardens don't know either. I'm happy to forward this email to anyone who wants it.
Everyone I've spoken to who lives locally and was here when GLB was brought in as an extension to GLA are certain that we can park in both zones, they remember having letters about it as part of the consultation.
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With a resident permit for Green lanes B you can park in the green lanes A zone. I ve got the orginal documentation from when the scheme started, thats what it says and its never been amended.
You cannot use visitor permits from Zone B in Zone A.
If your outside the time limit for appealing and incorectly issued PCN, and parking cannot/wont make a refund, I'd make a formal complaint to the LA and then the ombudsman, it seems like a fairly straightforward case of maladministration.
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Can someone with an A permit park in B then?
We need clarity from the council here!
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