Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020 ... so Wightman Rd ...
... can surely be closed to through traffic in the future, as it currently is during the bridge works. If the planners can deal with the re-routing of all those buses and taxi journeys away from Oxford Street for the pedestrianisation plans, it must be possible to do this for Wightman Road as well.
Living Wightman would do well to have a chat with the new Mayor's office.
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Permalink Reply by JoeW on
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Charlotte A, if you're a wheelchair user, many stretches of Wightman Road are impassable because of the pavement parking.
Somehow the urban environment needs to changed so that people choose to walk, cycle and use public transport more, and drive less. Permeable filtering systems such as are in place on Wightman is one way to do this, because it makes walking and cycling more attractive and discretionary car journeys less attractive. We need more schemes like this, plus other measures perhaps like congestion charging, so that people making non-discretionary car journeys don't get stuck in traffic.
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Permalink Reply by Antoinette on
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So just return to parking on the road...job done...
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Permalink Reply by matthew cuthbert on
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Wheel chair users are neglected across Haringey, as are pedestrians.
Are there any pedestrian or accessible streets representation on the current traffic consultation with Harringey Council?
I guess one way would restrict half the journeys at least, the speed limit should remain 20 mph. Each road at the top would have a left turn only, or right turn only. -
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Permalink Reply by ant on
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Hi Antoinette, I like the suggestion to move Wightman parking back onto the road.
The thing with just doing that on its own without any other changes though is that it will go back to how Dick described it in his history post with parked cars constantly getting sideswiped and wing mirrors knocked off and angry hooting and stand offs when traffic can't get past each other - its why the parking was moved to the foot paths and the Ladder rungs were changed to one-ways - the roads just aren't big enough to accommodate the volume of two way traffic.
To move the parking back I think there would also need to be some other changes at the same time to reduce the Wightman traffic volume, such as the making it one-way in one of the directions or some such like Joe has been suggesting. I like the resident only rising bollards at each end idea, and from John's comment about how a small reduction in traffic can make a big reduction to congestion having all the local resident/business traffic able use Wightman and the Ladder rungs via the bollards might make enough of a reduction to the Green Lanes traffic volume to have the buses run fine. -
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Couldn't reply to you Ant, but in my view, a few broken wing mirrors are a sacrifice worth making. I can't accept though that making Wightman Road one way is a good idea particularly is you make it one way going from north to south as you would then have all the Jewsons lorries travelling the full length of Wightman Road rather than arriving at the Endymion end where their depot is.
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For the millionth time, I don't drive to work and never have done. I do not cause the weekday rush hour traffic, I want to use public transport which is what everyone tells me is the right thing to do.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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No busses go down Wightman road though sadly so you're held up by traffic and not a road closure. According to Joe's work a fair amount of the traffic that was counted on Wightman Rd would also have been counted on Green Lanes.
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Are you trying to claim that there isn't additional traffic on Green Lanes now because of the closure of Wightman Road? Or perhaps you didn't see Michael A's stats on how much longer bus journeys are taking along Green Lanes since the closure of Wightman Road.
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You only need a slight increase in "traffic" to get a big increase in congestion. From memory the figures quoted around the introduction of the congestion charging zone were a 3% reduction in traffic would cause a 15% reduction in congestion. I bet the busses are a lot better now that the small amount of morning and afternoon school traffic has gone.
I'm saying that of the 160,000 vehicles a week counted on Green Lanes I think a great deal of them were also counted on Wightman Rd so they're just staying on there instead of cutting through the ladder.
Anyone coming cross borough down Hornsey Park Road and not using Green Lanes has probably been displaced much further away.
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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Julie, I have no doubt the blocks will be lifted back onto the truck & the traffic hoards will return once the bridge is complete in Sept. There just happens to be a Traffic Survey going on at the same time looking for ideas to reduce traffic in the area, (not just the ladder) and the bridge work road closure has shown many people on the ladder a real time model for traffic reduction. OK, a 95% reduction so maybe too dramatic a change! Hence the cries of foul play from some.
I do wonder if the traffic consultants will come up with anything remotely seriously useful for traffic reduction ideas. Their recent interim report mainly lifted stats (some quite old) from other data gathering organisations and applied pretty basic comment/analysis to it. But lets see.
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Very disappointing if that is the case, how many car journeys are made by Haringey Council, recorded through their own traffic plan? and what proportion of council staff live in the borough, promoting the local economy?
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It's definitely the case. I doubt very much that any more than a handful of Haringey Council staff drive anywhere whilst on duty or getting to/from work. Where would they park? Do you think the Council has the money for a fleet of cars? When I worked at Redbridge Council less than 50 of their 2,200 staff drove to work and they were mainly maintenance people with small vans. And I think you'll find like most employers, the Council will employ the best person for the job wherever they live.
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