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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020 ... so Wightman Rd ...

 ... can surely be closed to through traffic in the future, as it currently is during the bridge works. If the planners can deal with the re-routing of all those buses and taxi journeys away from Oxford Street for the pedestrianisation plans, it must be possible to do this for Wightman Road as well.

Living Wightman would do well to have a chat with the new Mayor's office.

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Don, it's a suggestion, we'd need the traffic consultants to judge whether its feasible. GL currently has 3 Lanes, so maybe one could be used to increase the pavement width plus add a median strip/kerb. The remaining two lanes would flow better if as you say the Arena junction is restructured/rephased somehow, plus the multiple other reasons why traffic has to stop are reduced (turns especially right turns into 8 rungs and 6 gardens, parking and loading at inappropriate times, bus stops in the wrong place). Traffic flow is a function of interruptions not just number of vehicles.

Please!! not the median kerb!!! I can't Remember how long ago it was, but there was an island with railings at the bridge end of the lanes some years ago. What a mare! Squashed the traffic in made cycling past it a problem, cost twenty grand ( or something) to install and lasted six months before they paid the same amount to remove it.
Please! Not the median kerb!!

I'm sure any traffic calming measure can be implemented badly.

Some of the median strips in Wood Green don't have a kerb at all I think- it would only be necessary where right turns need to be prevented. Railings are often not used either.

This seems a rather odd suggestion. I've just walked up to Shopping city and the traffic between the Salisbury and Turnpike Lane was moving quite smoothly, as was that on Turnpike Lane itself, probably because the schools are on holiday.

But traffic between Turnpike Lane station and Shopping City was, as usual, at a stop start crawl.

They can ask for whatever they like - I've asked Santa for a Maserati for Christmas but that ain't gonna happen either. Without a valid Traffic Management Order the Council can't legally keep Wightman Road closed....and I would be the first organising crowd funder funding to challenge them in the Courts if they tried.

I think TMOs can be extended for up to 18 months or else a new one introduced for experimental or other reasons.

A TMO can only be extended if the purpose of the extension is the same as the original Order. If the bridge works were delayed for example. A new purpose requires a new Order and that requires proper consultation with ALL residents not just a vocal minority. That consultation process, even if they adopted the closure of Wightman Road as a policy (which they are very unlikely to) would take months and the curgent TMO expires in 5 weeks.

"not just a vocal minority" Indeed....

There are 267,500 people living in Haringey... How many people live in/around Wightman Rd that support its permanent closure?

How many people live in Harringay that support the permanent closure of: Hermitage Rd, The Gardens, most of Islington, Crouch End, Wood Green?

Honestly, you're just a typical contrarian.

No but yeah but no but....

John - Gardens residents have been subjected to considerable criticism on HoL from some Ladder residents alleging they had/have undue influence on the council or councillors that enabled their road closures in the first place, because their "selfish" action forced traffic onto Green Lanes or even - lawks! - the Ladder. Doesn't this precisely highlight the fundamental problem: tinkering with one bit of the road system causes problems and distress to neighbouring streets. Until and unless there's a whole-area solution, it's not going to be resolved. 

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