Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020 ... so Wightman Rd ...
... can surely be closed to through traffic in the future, as it currently is during the bridge works. If the planners can deal with the re-routing of all those buses and taxi journeys away from Oxford Street for the pedestrianisation plans, it must be possible to do this for Wightman Road as well.
Living Wightman would do well to have a chat with the new Mayor's office.
Tags for Forum Posts: traffic, wightman bridge closure
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Permalink Reply by Antoinette on
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I think you can only be referring to Woodberry Grove as it becomes Lordship Road.... but that road is almost entirely made of large blocks set back from the road with off street parking so there is no need for on street parking, which only occurs for small stretches on one side of the street only. The rest is either red route or double yellow lines. But the most significant difference for me is the section of Green Lanes it runs parallel to always runs very freely as it is a wide thorough-fare with plenty of space to pass pulled in buses etc. Few people choose to rat run through Lordship Road because there simply isn't a need to.
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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From the latest email out from Living Wightman;
'Living Wightman submitted a joint Evidence Document (with the Ladder Community Safety Partnership) , entitled 'Fresh Start' to Haringey Council yesterday. It was a very thorough mapping of the challenges, evidence and proposed ideas for traffic flow improvement on Green Lanes. Plus lots of quotes from residents and cyclists on the awfullness of Wightman Road/the Ladder pre filtered closure, and the benefits we're now enjoying from a less polluted and healthier community.'
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Permalink Reply by ant on
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That was a couple of days ago now, any other LCSP members / Living Wiightman supporters wondering what was proposed (or wondered about sight before submission)? I've asked, they don't want to say.
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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Ant. This is the email I sent to you about 30 mins ago. I am not sure where you think I said we did not want to say... I am (and the main authors are) more than happy for you (or anyone else for that matter) to see the document, but as I said below, it is not in a state that is felt ready for wider circulation, it needs polishing- the issue Ant, is that everyone is a critic and the authors want to get it right.
"Hey. Sorry for being slow in responding. I have not been one of the primary authors and so I wanted to check with them the status re circulation. Julia is primarily in control of the document but she has indicated it needs some polishing prior to wider circulation- which will happen once Julia is back from holiday.
In the mean time I am happy for you to have sight of it at my house so you can get a feel for its contents if you would like to see if before Julia makes it publically available.
It is, of course, a living document and any constructive feedback is most welcome.
Let me know if you want to drop by."
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I've been asking for some days and you didn't send that email till after I posted here just above now, and anyway, how can you have sent it to the council already if you're not prepared to show it to the people you claim to represent?
Just show us what you sent to the council already.
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Ant. Remarkably some of have lives and have been busy enjoying what precious sun we have been seeing while it lasts.
As I said the principal author has suggested the document need further work. It's a fair question as to why it was sent prior to being disceminated. I believe this was more to do with the fact that one of the key requests is to keep Wightman closed until the Traffic Study reports reports back in December. Nothing top secret there, it was on all the petitIons many of us have signed. In order to do this though the timing of the descision could not wait until late August and it has to be considered now, and hence it was sent prior to the lead author going on holiday. It is not optimal but a document worked on hard by a multiple authors in their spare time will inevitably have areas that are felt require improvement as once it is out there it is out there. Hence the reluctance to share electronically.
Without trying to be petty I should note I sent you my email at 21:27 and you posted at 21:35. Sometimes that happens but I would repeat my offer to you and anyone else who feels the need to see the document to take a look at ok at my home. I will even make you a cuppa.
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Without trying to be petty
- it does seem petty though, I've asked for days about this to you and Living Wightman and you only acknowledge that now after Matt and Jessica posted to HoL about it. You now say I can come see it at you house at 9:45am tomorrow and I can take notes and photos but you'd prefer I don't share those. That seems very petty for a something thats already been submitted to the council by the LCSP on behalf of Ladder residents.
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So Justin, can you please tell us when we get to see the report submitted by Living Wightman to the Council....? If it's sufficiently complete to submit, it's sufficiently complete for the rest of us to see it, wouldn't you say? I was going to submit an FOI request to the Council for it but I'd rather not have to waste Council officer time.
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It will be published soon, remember I did say that it is being prepared by folks who are (for the most) doing this in their spare time. So a bit of breathing space and patience is most welcome from you all.
Won't be long, I am sure it will be worth the wait.
In the mean time I am happy to extend my invite for a cuppa and a draft to review if anyone feels it imperative they satisfy themselves as to the document's contents. So far, after a lot of fuss, no one has take me up on this.
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I agree with Jessica. Maybe its ok for Living Wightman to submit proposals without showing their supporters as they have been clear about what their aims are, but the LCSP is claiming to represent all of the Ladder, umbrella'ing over all other Ladder groups, so there is an obligation to share what they're doing and get feed back on proposals _before_ submitting them to the council. Could that at least happen now in the future Justin if its too late with this one?
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Jessica. We previously have put shouts out for people to join the LCSP group- and indeed when we have our next meeting I will do so again to see if any members wish to attend. We are stronger for it if people who want to constructively engage and share their ideas work together. If anyone is willing to spend their time helping actively contribute to a Ladder community response in their spare time and get engaged, they are more than welcome to join us.
I have also said I am open to anyone who wishes to call me or email me as to what we are doing and I regularly feedback at the regular LCSP meeting- the minutes of which contain notes on what I have feedback and are circulated to the membership. Jessica, you know me, you have my phone number, you know where I live. I utterly reject your assertion that you have no idea what is going on. Sometimes it is up to you to inform yourself- call me if you have a question, please do not shout into the internet and make out like I am acting like some kind of black box, unwilling to share. I do this in my spare time, after I work for a living and have cared for my kids. I do not have all day to sit waiting for a question on HoL so I can satisfy you, Ant and Antoinette. Call me!
As to the document, there is nothing hush hush, there are no secret plans to cast everything north of Frobisher among the Sodomites (Ant!), we simply want to catch all the spelling errors and formatting and other polishing that creep in when more than one person works on a shared document in their spare time.
I am not sure what you feel yourself not allowed to do Jessica, apart from one message a day or so ago, you and I have had no communication on this topic. My door is always open to you! You know that.
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