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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

New crime map on http://www.police.uk/

This is the picture for December 2010 for HoL local area and it is from http://www.police.uk/

 

 

"1259 crime and ASB". 

Not sure what to make of it yet but thought the link worth posting.

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Permalink Reply by SarahC on February 1, 2011 at 18:35
Excellent! You couldn't make it up.
Permalink Reply by Alison P on February 1, 2011 at 19:45
Ah mystery solved. You'd laugh if it wasn't so ridiculous. Poor Rowley Road. Doesn't mean the figures are wrong, but is a fairly major problem with trying to look at stats like these geographically. The Standard article talks about a number of streets with the same problem - eg getting assigned all the crime stats linked to a local shopping centre.
Permalink Reply by Budgie on February 1, 2011 at 21:25

How ridiculous is this? We live on the now infamous rowley road and I have to say i was completely shocked when i first saw this. I can understand the the psychiatric wards in st anne's will make lots of contact with the police, but it's bad that these stats have been linked to our street! For the area we are in it is genuinely one of the nicest, quietest streets. Touch wood I've never seen a single problem on it in 3 1/2 years here and all my neighbours are lovely. And we were wanting to put our place up for sale soon too!

Permalink Reply by John McMullan on February 1, 2011 at 21:49
Don't fret, the Police look like mugs over this and so do the Government. The press have come to your rescue.
Permalink Reply by Abi on February 1, 2011 at 22:06
*nod* I really feel for you as this doesn't seem fair at all (or indeed the way the site has been set up full stop). Do you think the bit further down about St. Anne's being the 'worst ward in London' for ASB is also as direct result of the hospital?
Permalink Reply by Germana on February 2, 2011 at 15:47

And the police station right next door to the hospital perhaps? Of course there are problems around here as we're only too aware of, but can St Anne's really be the worst ward in London for ASB? I really really struggle to believe that. 

 

From the Guardian article linked below:

"crime hotspots" are nothing of the sort; instead, they are sometimes just the location of the police station where nuisance calls were received." 

Permalink Reply by Liz on February 2, 2011 at 15:12
Article from the Guardian heavily criticising the police attitude to crime mapping and open data
Permalink Reply by Abi on February 2, 2011 at 15:17
Some good point there - I think the bit about it covering 'reported crimes' rather than actual crimes is really important: that obviously bears no relation to what's actually going on! And could actually just reflect a street where people look out for each other a bit too enthusiastically!
Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on February 2, 2011 at 15:54
Anyone know the date and venue for our next Harringay & Psychiatric Wards Area Assembly ? Sergeants Jono and Tim are busy revising their homework I believe.
Permalink Reply by Hugh on February 2, 2011 at 17:47

Here's some official Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) blurb:



"The MPS like all forces has been required to provide data for the national site.

There are a number of issues with the way in which crime locations are put onto the mapping site. These are particularly problematic in areas of high crime that relate to large commercial centres, such as Heathrow Airport and shopping centres, where crime associated with these locations is plotted to a nearby residential street.

The site had been developed relatively quickly and as such the MPS will continue to feed into the NPIA ideas for the continued development of the site.

The MPS has almost 53,000 points where crime can be displayed. It is neither practical nor a good use of staff and resources for every location to be checked individually so we are reliant on the National Policing Improvement Agency NPIA mapping system automatically placing the majority of them".
Permalink Reply by Hugh on February 2, 2011 at 18:05
Sorry Rowley Road, the local paper has picked this up, but, for what it's worth, I've added a comment and copied in Jono's comment and asked that they 'accuratise' their reporting. (And no I won't apologise for that word. I like making 'em up).
Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on February 2, 2011 at 18:18
Great word Hugh. I can think of one or two politicians who need to accuratise* [©Flouch 2011] their own accounting (*stop lying).

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