Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
New crime map on http://www.police.uk/
This is the picture for December 2010 for HoL local area and it is from http://www.police.uk/
"1259 crime and ASB".
Not sure what to make of it yet but thought the link worth posting.
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Permalink Reply by Alison P on
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Was interested in why some of the blobs were larger than others, so went to the www.police.uk site to check, but it crashed my computer!
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Permalink Reply by SarahC on
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The radio news on BBC London has been leading all morning on something like "The area around Green Lanes in Haringey is the worst for anti-social behaviour, according to a new police map..."
When I put in my postcode it said "Sorry, we couldn't find a policing area that matched your search".
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Permalink Reply by james walsh on
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Message when entering my (or any other) postcode ''Sorry, we couldn't find a policing area that matched your search.''
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Permalink Reply by Mark B on
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Well the big blobs are I think general area - When you zoom in then it breaks it down a bit more.But still not too much so you cannot apparently identify witnesses.
I think the big "13" on wightman road is just wightman. Also look at the "huge" 13 "hotspot" in the middle of the crouch end residential area. I have always been a bit scared walking through there with my waitrose carrier bags...... (that was an attempt at a joke).
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Agree with Alison. My computer froze and had to go to task manager to get out. Maybe just high demand on the police uk site
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They've gone into more detail on the radio and apparently "Rowley Road" is the second worst area in the country for anti-social behaviour. (Rowley Road looks really small, so I assumed they meant Rowley Gardens, then looked at the map above where it seems to have the number 79!). Then a policeman (?) came on and said it was probably just people reporting lost phones.
I do remember looking at the old crime maps that were on here and being vaguely cheered that there was a lower level of crime in West Green than Crouch End.
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Look I promise I really really *really* dont read the Mail but...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1352354/Crime-map-Britain-R...
so they say Rowley Road.
But it could be associated with the Park or a bus or whatever.
Here is an enlargment from the screen grab I took this AM
It is such an outlier.
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Rowley Road looks perfectly pleasant on streetview. But what happens if you have one dodgy thing in a street, though? Like a house with drug dealing that all the neighbours repeatedly report for months - would these all count as separate incidents?
I still can't get into the map; they're saying on the radio that the whole thing's gone down through overuse. (And I promise that I really, really, really don't usually listen to Vanessa Feltz...)
I notice the Mail can't spell Harringay/Haringey.
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That's exactly my point. Something odd happend on Rowley and somthing odd happened on Ascot, all the rest is not a "surprise". More crime around stations etc.
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The statistics would depend on people actually reporting crime. It might well be that the residents of the worst areas just don't bother because they know that there isn't a lot of point. And those in other areas may be more easily spurred into action.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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For comparison, the old crime mapping tool can still be accessed via our policing page.
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Comparing the two, the answer appears to be for some parts e.g. south of the ladder they apparently agree and both give 7 crimes. (5 in that crime hotspot cavendish road).
http://maps.met.police.uk/access.php?area=E01002001&ct=8&so...
For St Annes and the region of Rowley Road to put it politely the figures disagree somewhat.
6 crimes on the old database
http://maps.met.police.uk/access.php?area=E01002042&ct=8&so...
As opposed to what seems to be 96 in the same geographical area.
I love data, and I love open data. But I hate lazy journalism, and it looks like something is seriously wrong with the figures.
Imagine the time that will be wasted sorting it out. (unless santa went on a rampage or something).
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