Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Network Rail announce Wightman Road to reopen on Monday 5th September
http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/wightman-road-bridge-r...
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Permalink Reply by Esat Karahasan on
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In the same time frames you are referring to, Harringay went from grove and fields to a bustling London borough, horses and carts have been replaced by cars, the population has grown, building been erected and a city established hence why going back that far is irrelevant. London as defined by the map is encompassed by the m25, inner and outer London also have been somewhat naturally defined by the north circular/south circular and also transport zoning. And far as I know Wightman was a B road when I used to write my address as Harringay, Middlesex back in the early 80's when, my house phone was a a circular dial our number began 01 and channel 5 let alone sky TV, Even HOL didn't even exist yet as the Internet wasn't in homes until 10 years later, ahh that dial up sound! Guys, if your ever to succeed and I'm all for calming the traffic, you need to be relevant, current and grounded. The problem we face today is an inevitable result of growth and development, we are suffering as a result but looking back 600 years won't help your case.
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Permalink Reply by Peter Chalk on
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Not quite true if you read Wikipedia:
"Its [land company] role in Harringay was with the preliminaries of estate development - laying out the estate, building the roads and supplying major services. Once this was complete it auctioned off the land to builders.
The first roads to be laid out were the Wightman Road, (as far as present day Beresford Road) set out by the Great Northern Railway Company, and what is now Effingham Road, by the British Land Company."
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Harringay_(1880–present).
Wightman was never intended as a major through route for commuter traffic.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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As to the road's history and why it is the way it is, this is set out clearly in the Fresh Start report. (With thanks to Dick Harris and Stephen Hartley for supplying critical information for this).
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I think more should actually read this, I just have and found that actually Wightman road has and was always a real if route for the already major north south high road that is green lanes. This was then extended west as a Wood Green by pass In favour of a eastern route! Wightman is an always has been used as intended, the problem is we have come along way since then London has grown as has the population and development has meant more cars using those roads. A much larger scheme and further development of alternatives is required. We need to look at Haringays place in London as a whole!
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Your interpretation of the history is different to mine, East.
From it I understood that Wightman Road was built to service houses. The geographical peculiarities of its location along with repeated bungling by the Council in the 20th century for both political and financial reasons led it to become more of a highway that it was ever intended to be.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Pretty obvious you only write stuff here and don't actually read anything. Ho hum.
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Permalink Reply by Rich on
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I would actually be interested to know exactly what the traffic situation is at the point now across the area with Wightman Closed as it is, and why most of those people are driving (could they use public transport, if there isn't public transport to where they need to go, why not). I rarely cycle down Green Lanes, but when I have in the last month or so, the traffic has seemed of a similar level as it always did. Of course this is subjective, so I'd be interested to see what the truth is.
I do take issue with the "It's your choice to live here, London has always been busy, we should all suffer together" attitude of your post however, We should be looking to improve things, rather than just staying this is the status quo. Give the current state of London in generally, driving should be discouraged in favour of public transport, cycling, walking or any other means of low pollution transport. I appreciate we're not going to get rid of cars overnight, but we should be always looking to reduce the number.
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Permalink Reply by William Booth on
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I live on St. Ann's Road but I walk to Harringay station frequently, cycle to nursery on Cavendish Road and drive sometimes to Sainsburys. I've noticed very little change in traffic. Did the road survey give any concrete numbers on this?
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Awesome, will be very interesting to see if going forward some kind of traffic control would be viable.
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