Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Is HANE the new Paul Simon?
Tags for Forum Posts: estate agents signs, hane, school summer fair signs
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Haney gave £1200 for 80 signs up for a month. Mine was put up way before the month. I moaned to the person responsible at SHIS but she just looked at me like I was mad and walked away with 'but it's for the children!' justifications.
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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£15 per sign seems a bit cheap for a whole month's prostitution in one's front yard - I'd nearly rather put up a Murdoch skydish. But I see my original tag, estate agent pollution, has become the more neutral estate agents signs, so I'd better button my lip lest I scare off both pimps & punters. 'Don't be a pain, let's hear it for HANE!' Let's deface and degrade the neighbourhood for the sake of the kiddies.
Meanwhile there's £50 from my miserly teacher's pension for SH(I)S if the Summer Fair Committee can persuade said HANE not to nail a sign to my front wall (several of those on Duckett Road are illegally nailed to the outside of the garden walls, btw) - and of course a similar amount from my old-age pittance for the pimps of NHS when they too get around to transforming the Falkland catchment area into a red light advertising zone. (I trust Steve from Castles will never stoop to this low annual activity: 'an Englishman's home is his brothel' is a little infra dig, I think.)
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Well last year North Harringay got £20 a sign but had them up two weeks before and four after, more here. Birdy did a fantastic job with the signs and they were much prettier. The Hanes ones are almost offensive.
I still wonder how we'd convince people to pay say, £1000 a year towards their child's local schooling when the alternatives are to get religious, quit their jobs and help hold the school together or go private and pay ten times that. But I digress.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Hatch on
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Absolutely spot on! I don't agree with it and I have suggested other ways to raise money for schools without a proliferation of boards. I just personally prefer good old fashioned recommendation and word of mouth rather than deceiving the public with moody boards! Each to their own... it has stood us well for the last 30 years!
I would much prefer to donate a percentage of our fee to the school if it is a parent (or friend of) who is selling and they don't need to have a board unless they want one either!
With a well designed poster and a mention in the school's newsletter, a blog post, tweeting etc. who really needs a board to sponsor a school event?
It's a great opportunity to move with the times, respect the area and the people in it I think.
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Permalink Reply by alistairj on
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Only noticed this visual pollution yesterday - surely, as an estate agent, HANE should be interested in improving the area. How long are these going to be around?
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John and I feel sure that the remaining 4,144 HOL members wouldn't want us two to go on enjoying this veritable HANEfest of a discussion all on our own. Seems to me that £50 a head would deliver £207,300 towards the schooling of the pupils of the HOL catchment area for the 2011/'12 school year. It mightn't give SHS & NHS "Academy" or "Free School" status, but every mickle makes a muckle. Go on, give it a go. They have nothing to lose but their hanes.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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I already contribute generously towards the school system. It's called income tax.
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My grovelling apologies to PAUL SIMON (both old and new managements) for suggesting above that Paul Simon ever stooped so low as to support a Ladder School Summer Fair with a forest of signs. No, PS never did. On checking back to our 2010 discussion, I find I was confusing PS with their shortlived next-door neighbour, Keatons.
In fact Keatons' co-operation with the pupils of NHS was almost self-effacing with just a little mention in the signs' top right-hand corner. The Winkworth sign for SHIS (in?'08?'09?) was almost as jolly and good. Anthony Pepe's effort last year was much less in the spirit of what summer fair sponsorship should be. But I cannot think why SHIS committee has this year backtracked so far as to allow Hane to blight the image of Children's Fair support so balefully. The arguments that "it's for the children" and that "they'll only be up for six weeks" do not hold in the face of these Hane-horrors - and I'm glad to see that no pro-sign supporters have yet come on to laud their fun-filled artistic beauty.
Steve Hatch continues to be a consistent proponent of a more ethical and aesthetic 'no boards' approach which should be the pattern for all other EAs with some appreciation for the communities they depend upon. But if by 2012 school committees still haven't got over their apathetic addiction to supplying local business with cheap advertising, Paul Simon signs are smaller in quite tolerable colours, and I'm sure Agora, Betfred or Metrobet could come up with something less offensive than the awful black-on-yellow of the hideous Hane.
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Nice to see that people are coming round to my way of thinking :-) I got rubbished for objecting a couple of years ago.
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I really don't know how to respond to this curmudgeonly discussion.
We need the need money fgs!!! It is our one and only commercial fundraising effort in the last couple of years - schools in the west of the borough have been doing it for eons.
If you have better ideas, I'd love to hear them.
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Charge the parents £100 a term.
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Curmudgeonly? John D, that must be you and me. John McM, Steve and Alistair just don't have the years to qualify as true curmudgeons.
If you have better ideas, I'd love to hear them.
Angela, my 'better idea' both now and two years ago is simply to get, say, half a dozen of your neighbours on HOL to publicly pledge, say, £50 each summer in so good a cause, then cajole a further, say, twenty HOL members to match-fund (from a membership of, say, 4,200 there must be at least twenty active and minimally benevolent folk worth cajoling). These nominal 26 contributors would leave you with £1,300 or £100 more than Hane with all their atrocious publicity boards could rise to.
Of course I realise that HOL isn't a fundraising agency or even a chugger - but it seems to me that involving 0.5% or 1% of our (well-heeled but not necessarily school-connected) membership in supporting one or two Ladder Infant, Junior or Primary schools once a year wouldn't be stretching HOL's communitarian objectives too far.
As for what schools in the west of the borough have been doing for eons, surely Harringay Ladderites & Gardenites are gifted with higher planes of imagination, and the online tool to exercise leaps of that imagination?
Meanwhile, are there no artistically sensitive souls out there eager and willing to defend against curmudgeonly ignoramuses the aesthetic and functional rightness of HANE's yellow panels and of how their serried ranks work on a number of levels from Burgoyne to Hewitt? Perhaps for his 2012 exhibition this Green Lanes Maecenas could be persuaded to include several of his house-high diptychs and triptychs on each road, now that he has educated our tastes in black on yellow?
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