Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Haringey needs some Dutch courage
Mini-Holland bike-friendly schemes are transforming London. Hopefully eliminating the distressing sight of squashed cyclists.
For example you and your kids can now safely cycle along a protected lane from near Enfield Town Green Lanes down through Winchmore Hill and Palmers Green. Local petrolheads moaned but the council grabbed a big grant from the Mayor and used it.
But the lane comes to a shuddering halt at the North Circular ... and of course past Turnpike Lane you literally take your life in your hands going south.
Hope the new council cabinet will take a braver and more imaginative route towards planning than the last lot ...
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Permalink Reply by Straw Cat on
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Both. Also any resident can personally ask a question at Full Council.
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Permalink Reply by Mimi on
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Sorry what is Full Council pls and how do you hear about it? We also have an ongoing problem of rubbish being dumped on the pavement as the mews flats off Green Lanes don't have bins. It's a real problem too.
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It's the monthly meeting of all Haringey councillors at the Civic Centre. To ask questions look at this link.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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The next meeting is on 16th July Mimi. Questions have to be submitted in writing at least 10 working days before the meeting.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Can I suggest, Mimi, that you might like to begin with your local councillors. There are three for each ward. You can find out who they are by typing your postcode into a box on the Council's webpage.
https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgFindMember.aspx
The Council website may ask you to register. For this sort of query, you can ignore this request if you prefer.
The website will give you their contact details: email addresses, phone numbers "surgery" times.
Alternatively you may want to try contacting Veolia and asking for the contact details of what they call the "Village Manager". Which is a fancy-schmancy title for their area manager.
I assume most HoL members know the sort of problem you mention. There are some corners of Green Lanes where I've never not seen and reported a pile of waste bags. This one for instance.
Not too many years ago when we had lots more enforcement staff, bags were often opened and dumpers fined. Did it work? I think it helped to keep the tide of dumping in check. Now it seems open season.
"No one will be watching us; why don't we do it in the road."
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i know exactly what the problem is. it's one mews where the landlords are too tight to pay for no street parking for their big fat Mercedes and BMWs etc and so they can park off road where the bins should be the tenants need to leave their rubbish in bin bags. the agreement is on Green Lanes but they never walk down to Green Lanes to dump their rubbish their, so every day the road looks like a dump. It is so depressing.
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I see some great cycling. I also see a lot of very bad cycling (not looking, not indicating, passing HGVs on the inside). I would like to see mandatory training.
I was riding behind a cyclist the other day that was clearly a motorcyclist too. He rode excellently and was very safe and aware.
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I know someone who helped set up a Mini-Holland scheme. They pushed on through death threats, intimidation and personal attacks in person and on social media. It was awful and outrageous to see it happen and their tenacity, being certain it was the right thing, was awe inspiring. Pushing through any change which makes it more difficult for motorists is next to impossible. And the "bad cyclists" argument is so, so tiresome. There are cyclists good and bad, but the evidence that it's good for both the environment and personal health is surely more compelling? Sadly, I have to commute to work every morning and I see dangerous, risky and selfish driving every day, but you don't hear people petitioning to ban cars on that evidence, do you? Why is it different for cyclists?
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Yes you see bad driving. How much bad motorcycling do you see? After all Motorcyclist actually make up the biggest number for KSI stats in London as road users.
Based on that there should be motorcycle lanes,
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Spend half an hour watching St Ann's Road and you'll see a lot of bad motorcycling. Motorcyclists speeding, weaving in and out of other traffic, doing wheelies ...
No wonder so many of the show-off idiots end up as statistics.
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You must have seen delivery drivers on the pavement, going the wrong way up a one way street, cutting through pedestrians on crossings? I know they’re not typical motorcyclists but they’re still on the road with two motorised wheels. It’s one of the reasons some in the medical profession call them organ donors on wheels - young, fit, healthy and foolish.
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