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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

This Tuesday some names in journalism led a debate at the City University on whether the forthcoming general election is about to be the UK's first where new media will play a significant role.

Taking that down to a local level, I'm interested in the extent to which new media will affect the coming London local elections.

We'll be doing our bit here on Harringay Online, trying to make sure we get as much contribution as possible online from our local candidates. Whether residents have an appetite for it remains to be seen.

But what about the candidates? Which of them from the three wards that are wholly or partly in Harringay, are using new media? To answer that, we've developed a New Media Quotient (NMQ) measurement for both parties and politicians.

The NMQ measures the scope and depth of each candidate's use of new media. (To avoid any potential for political bias, we're not measuring quality of contribution).

Here's how things stand as of today:

TOP OVERALL NMQ

Top 5 Candidates
Justin Hinchcliffe (Con, Seven Sisters) - 50
Nora Mulready (Lab, Harringay) - 40
David Schmitz (Lib Dem, Harringay) - 23
Tim Caines (Con, Harringay) - 19
Karen Alexander (Lib Dem, Harringay) - 17

Top Party in a Ward
Harringay Ward Labour + Liberal Democrats - 17

Top Party across the 3 Wards
Labour - 10

TOP NMQ ON HOL

Top 5 Candidates
Justin Hinchcliffe (Con, Seven Sisters) - 100
Nora Mulready (Lab, Harringay) - 69
David Schmitz (Lib Dem, Harringay) - 69
Karen Alexander (Lib Dem, Harringay) - 62
Chris Ford (Lib Dem, Harringay) - 46

Top Party in a Ward
Harringay Ward Liberal Democrats - 59

Top Party across the 3 Wards
Labour - 28

So we have a good start in Harringay ward and an overall winner in Justin Hinchcliffe. but  the first term's report is definitely could do better.

What will mastering new media mean to the election outcome, I wonder. Can the smart candidate replicate something of the Obama effect?

If you'd like to see the details of the NMQ, see the attachments as either pdf (hyperlinks non-functional) or Excel.




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What people tend to do Clive is to pick out what they find interesting in a post, tweet that in 140 characters and link to the original post. So, for example, if you found something interesting in my last post, you might have tweeted:

Lively discussion on HoL about how Twitter creates water cooler moments - http://is.gd/9UcQN

Now if as someone who followed you on Twitter, I found your, let's call it a headline, interesting, I'd click the link and read the post.

Your job as a Twitter user in this instance is to effectively capture the essence of what you you think is interesting in 140 characters, alert people to it and provide them a link.

Let's imagine there was someone who was passionate about an old building nearby to where they live. Pretend for a moment that the person felt aggrieved at poor management by his local council. It might be that this person would want to find as many routes as possible to tell the world about it.

If he decided to use Twitter, his first job would be to make sure that people know about his Twitter steam. Then he'd tweet useful and interesting pieces that will draw people's attention to his cause. The more people who follow him, the wider an audience his message will get. Ideally his tweets will be picked up and get re-tweeted. If he's lucky he'll get picked up by the press who are increasingly using Twitter to source news stories.

If only there were such a person.
Inchoate rage, John? Unhappy and bitter ramblings? Invidious abuse?

Absolutely not, John. Just some lighthearted banter inspired by the little we have to go on from any of the parties involved. Just treat it as a little humorous heckling from the sidelines - a sort of shorthand 'marking of our candidates' cards' in the hope that, come May 6, that mark may become a very definite ballot paper X. I think we all know the work that Nora and one or two others from the LD trio have put into Harringay over the past 6 months to 4 years, and I trust the same could be said by voters over in Hornsey of their candidate.

Meanwhile, John, don't tar Hugh or HOL Admin with a brush aimed at OAE. You'll meet many more stringent inquisitors in the course of your political life.
If you can't take a few digs John, how are you (or Nora) going to make it in politics? This site represents different views on politics, parties, systems and politicians in general. Is it any wonder with tantrums like that people have a view they do of politicians?
@ John

John, if you read it, OAE's post was not an attack on Nora but a comment about Twitter and the banal, trivial use made of it. Nora, whom I respect and I'm sure OAE does too, is apparently a user of Twitter and the examples of messages given confirm me in my view that I don't need to know that Stephen Fry is in a lift or that Nora is waiting in for a washing machine.

I'll pass over the strange circumstance that an aspirant to political office and an MP's caseworker has no phone - that, presumably is her choice - but I have to say that nobody from Labour has knocked on my door in the last year , or left an outcard or any election literature of ANY kind.

As just one example of OAE's contribution to improving Harringay, you could consider his crusade for a Wightman Road bus.

"Inchoate", by the way means unfinished, rudimentary. Is that really what you meant to say ?
Well John, having checked to see if you've taken down your page ( which you haven't) please allow me to comment on your post, which reminded me of an article in the Guardian (here) at the end of February saying that the Labour Party is an alienating force in big cities, and would prevent an outsider such as Barack Obama from attaining high office.

As a prospective council candidate, a noble and admirable way of fullfilling your civic responsibilities might I add, you must surely be aware that election as a representitive of the electorate automatically imposes accountability on you. If you and your Labour party colleagues are not prepared to accept this, then what are you intending to do with the electorate's votes and taxes.

Haringey council has been ruled by the same political party for the past 40 years, yet recently achieved the distiction of being named the worst local authority in London. Is it any wonder that the tax payers and voters hereabouts are possibly a little disinchanted with your party's achievements.

Be thankful you are participating in elections during the 21st century, in previous times jibes and criticism came accompanied by rotten fruit, vegetables and worse!

Your petty tirade towards Hugh & OAE is misplaced, both of whom in their own ways do good work for the community - perhaps if you knocked on OAE's door, you'd find that out for yourself.

Your threat and revelation that you and others of your party have chosen to retreat from this website speaks volumes. If you don't wish to engage here on a more or less anonymous platform, you should not be surprised if the electorate don't wish to engage with you or your party in the voting booth when the opportunity arises.

As for your partner's tweeting, I'm surprised that she conducts her personal & her private life together to the point that they become intertwined if she wishes to represent the electorate / tax-payer.

Finally, shouldn't you have told us that you are a prospective candidate for the Labour party albeit not in Harringay in the upcoming local elections.
Some interesting thoughts Peter.

Another perspective on Twittering.

People who use Twitter do seem to say that the best streams are those where people mix the personal and professional. I guess that in our day-to-day lives none of us want to work with people who are all business. In the same way politicians have for many years sought to give us an insight into their personal lives as well as their political views. Both, after all, matter. Small talk oils the wheels.
Well I guess I must be 'old school' Hugh.

When I worked in the professional world, (as a teacher) it was always emphasized that we kept our personal & professional lives separate, and I guess that old habit's die hard!
Horses for courses. It was useful for you to share how you feel - at least I'd find it useful if I was after your vote!
It's a question of degree and how public your social media is.

I sometimes tweet about the kids for example but don't name them or share photos because I have a public timeline. For politicians, they have to be a little careful because increasingly trad media follow and pick up tweets but a politician that makes comments about family or day to day life doesn't put me off, quite the opposite, it makes them seem human and not programmed by party central

Facebook is a walled garden and I don't have FB 'friends' that I don't know from off line life therefore I feel its okay to share more personal info and photos (provided you've got your settings right only those people you choose to see your stuff can see it). Politicians are generally advised to set up pages rather than accept hundreds of friends but someone like Lynne Featherstone has a very public Facebook profile

My Flickr page which I link to a lot on Twitter and my little personal blog keep it pretty 'business like' i.e. diatribes about litter and things like that because I share it around. I learned this from the excellent work on Flickr that Alan Stanton does.

Basically, if you are using your social media for more than simply personal reasons, its good to have a clear idea about what you want to do with it and plan your use accordingly. There's nothing wrong with Nora mixing personal and political, most effective political use of Twitter does just that (see Tom Watson's stream) and Twitter is also a conversation so expect to see her talking to people as well as commenting. The skill is in getting the right mix and it takes practice (plus it is supposed to be a bit fun as well)
@John I think one extra sugar in both your teas tonight will do you a world of good. This is a perfect example of how easy it is to be misunderstood online although I suspect the joke is on you. OAE's humour is both appropriate and famous.

I had to stop following that pr*ck Ed Balls because all he tweeted about was his bloody football team and nothing else.

Absolutely hilarious that HoL is accused of being anti every single parliamentary party that ever existed. You really are a bunch of idiots sometimes. How many Labour votes are going BEGGING on this site? Probably as many LibDem votes, ha bloody ha.

PS Nice Christian name, Nora obviously has good taste.
I think I may be late to this. Do Nora and John share more than just a political affiliation?
I think they've made it clear many times that they are partners.

Unlike the relationship between Jon Vellapah and Gina Adamou (he is her son-in-law) who are standing alongside Nora in Harringay.

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