Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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I've noticed that there is more litter hanging around for longer since the cut down to 'weekly' sweeping. I do pick up recyclables - plenty of beer cans around to drop into green bins. But I wont pick up fagbutts, and they are the most stomach-churning part of the waste on the High Road here especially around the station entrances. There needs to be highly visible bins at the top of each stairwell, but there isn't.
So, bring in the enforcers. There was an experiment with issuing on-the-spot fines which got some good publicity. £80 fines. One woman ended up with a huge bill for ignoring summonses. Stand at the top of the steps at Seven Sisters tube entrances for ten seconds and there's an easy catch. If we can't manage this ourselves with in-house cops of any flavour, then it can't be outwith the connections in the Council to hire in some private squads which surely must pay for themselves?
One citizen made an FOI request re Haringey's total littering fines last year, but sadly the spreadsheet supplied in answer has disappeared, presumably in the web upgrade.
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Permalink Reply by Antoinette on
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You can still see the spreadsheet if you click on html as opposed to download. .
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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I once worked with a fantastic guy who did on the spot fines. He knew no fear and would very politely but very loudly, so that passers by could hear, ask the miscreant to pick up what they had dropped or to accept a fine. He made way over his salary costs.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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The other day I saw a schoolboy drop and crush a polystyrene fast food container on the Wightman pavement..
I shouted from my 2nd floor window " You !!! Go back and pick that up "
Amazingly, he did
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Permalink Reply by Sarah - CleanupUK on
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Cleaning up litter costs taxpayers almost £1 billion a year in England. The social and environmental costs take that figure even higher, as do the costs to business and tourism. I for one would rather see that money spent on schools and hospitals!
It's a shame that people feel so depressed and frustrated about litter but don't feel they can do anything about the situation. The groups we have worked with at CleanupUK have found that by mounting their own antilitter campaigns and yes picking some of it up themselves they have seen a reduction in the amount of litter dropped.
By setting a good example you will encourage others to do the same. It doesn't have to be this way. If any of you would like to start a Harringay Anti-litter group please give me a shout.
We can involve Veolia, the local shopkeepers, Councillors as well as residents - it's all of our problem, we can all be part of the solution.
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Getting a contract with Veolia was the worst ever idea of Haringey. That aside I feel there is less dumping on the ladder since we no longer have through traffic. I guess there is no quick dump and get away and it implies that a large proportion of dumping was not by residents.
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I'm making as many reports of dumped rubbish as I ever did... This week alone carpet/kitchen bin/swivel chair on Umfreville what I think were tent poles/tent & mop/roller shopping bag on Mattison...never stops
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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That sounds residential. Don't you think the streets are cleaner in general? Fewer bottles and crisp packets flying around?
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Well when I have items I want to discard I put them in the boot of my car and take them to the dump. My guess is that this residential dumping is done by people who don't have that option. I've never yet seen anyone pull into the dump in a mini-cab to discard their rubbish. It's much easier to just dump it in the Passage and let busy bodies like me report it. Then the dumping fairy waves her magic wand and it's gone. But certainly in terms of litter, there's no doubt that the way litter is dropped out of cars is appalling and less cars has definitely resulted in less litter. There's no excuse for it.
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The annoying thing Antoinette is all people have to do is pick up the phone or go one line and their mattresses and so on will be picked up, in most cases, free of charge.
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Tell me about it. In effect I'm taking the job on for them.
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