Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Election tomorrow
So apparently we are standing on the brink of Starmergeddon. I know there are some Conservative supporters on here who are preparing to leave the country if that is an option for them. However, I also know that there are many more left wingers in our neighbourhood and it is to those whom I address this post and ask for advice. Firstly I hate the new constituency given to us on the west side of Green Lanes. I have no affinity whatsoever to Hornsey, let alone Friern Barnet, which is several miles away and another, far more privileged, affluent borough completely. I desperately want rid of the Tories at all costs, but fear the current Labour Party won't ultimately be much better. My question is, would it be safe to make a protest vote for Green, especially in view of our new constituency?
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Permalink Reply by JulieB on
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I don't know what the Labour majority is/will be in the re-drawn constituency, but if your main aim is to defeat the Tories personally I wouldn't risk it with a protest vote in this General Election.
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Permalink Reply by Gordon Farcas on
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In the new electorate you might be better off voting for the Lib Dems rather than the Greens if you want to prevent it becoming a Conservative seat. They are usually the second place taker on that side of Green Lanes and probably more palatable than the Greens for a reasonably affluent and well educated population. I agree that voting Labour would be a big mistake.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/craig-murrays-campaign-against-e...
I'm not voting for a pro-genocide Starmer Party.That tactical voting website says this constituency has 2 progressive parties.
What are they progressing toward? A mountain of lies about Climate Disaster? Poverty? Rightwing
parties,
Permanent war?
Is telling truth so hard?
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There's always the Workers Party if one's belief is that Labour isn't good enough.....
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Permalink Reply by Carl on
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Lib Dems (the undemocratic party) Greens (would send our industries to India to get Net 0 in Britain), Labour (commies) - they were all lame and incompetent in opposition.
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Caroline, did you reach a decision that gave you a good feeling? Did the result give some satisfaction and hope?
Can I suggest that you reflect on your own thoughts and feelings and consider whether they should or could lead you to alter something you do to influence or even direct the changes you want to see. For example to give time to an organisation doing work you value. and spending more time on projects you care about with people you like and respect.
Maybe start by taking your criticism of the new constituency boundaries to a voluntary organisation campaigning for voting reform.
Eg. https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/
My apologies if you are already engaged in this.
Labour have had some nasty shocks - which may prove positive. But only if some of their more perceptive people start to question stuff they and the Tories got wrong. And I don't just mean badly underestimating the appeal of Farage and Co.
Ignoring people's feelings and identification with places may be one of them.
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P.S.
I hadn't heard the Starmergeddon joke. It would be funny if it wasn't bitter. Marx - Karl not Groucho - is quoted saying that history repeats first as tragedy and then as farce. In recent UK history the people at the top of Government have continuous farce, With people at the bottom of out society suffering tragedy.I heard some radio commentator this morning repeating the nonsense about "tearing out antisemitism by its roots". Which may hint that Starmer could be continuing his purge of left-wing Jews.
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Permalink Reply by Caroline on
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I chickened out and very grudgingly voted Labour. I'm obviously very happy the Tories are gone, but my happiness is tainted by the fact that I don't see much changing under the current Labour regime. I really do not trust Starmer at all. With regards to the constituency changes, Labour will most likely change them again to suit them.
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Thanks for replying, Caroline. I share your fears about Starmer; but hope I'm proved wrong. Not because I always think I'm right but because research appears to show a deep lack of faith in politicians ability and wish to improve things. And plainly if that's what happens it means the ground is even more fertile for the far-right to flourish and bloom.
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