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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Dumped rubbish - go figure

Just watched a guy dump a huge amount of rubbish right outside his house on Seymour.

Asked him why - he said he is fed up waiting for his landlord to sort it out, so he has shifted it from the front garden onto the pavement so he can sit out (and admire the lovely view..). Broken mirrors, the lot.

3 of us tried to reason with him but he doesn't see it as his problem. Flipping unbelievable. Have reported it to Haringey, just wanted to rant.

Who is liable for that? I can't believe this guy will be able to pay any kind of fine.

 

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Permalink Reply by Alison P on July 8, 2011 at 11:45
It is a classic case of what can go wrong with crappy landlords in my opinion. The guy is obviously to blame for what happened but it never would have done if his landlord didn't think it was fine to pile up all that crap in the front garden and leave it there for months. It is being cleared now, though curiously not by Haringey or Veola - by a company called the property company who perhaps manage the flats. Which is good, why should the council need to do it. Enforcement have been round too, though I don't know whether they actually made contact with  mr flytipper.
Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on July 8, 2011 at 12:27

I think it might be worthwhile asking Enforcement staff, Alison.

If the property company (managing agents?) have been helpful then maybe they deserve some credit. Although not, of course, if they've been repeatedly ignoring tenants' requests until prodded by Haringey Enforcement.

As you know, there's an ongoing issue: that efficiently and speedily removing dumped rubbish deals only with the 'symptoms' of the problem. While operating like a negative feedback loop - a perverse incentive for some people to dump more.

Permalink Reply by Stuart on July 8, 2011 at 13:56
The Property Company - Crouch End agents who are one of the worst offenders for estate agents boards in breach of the regulations which never get taken down. Also agents for a property on our street which is used by Haringey to house difficult tenants and has been the cause of some difficult anti-social behaviours. So when the guy complained to his landlord, he would have been complaining to The Property Company and it was them who no doubt ignored him until now.
Permalink Reply by Alison P on July 8, 2011 at 14:30
Great. Limelight on one side, Property Company on the other. O joy. At least we know who manages those flats now.
Permalink Reply by Anette on July 8, 2011 at 21:59

Alison, we managed to get Limelight once, we can get them again. Let's get on to the Property company. We can get them too.

What p***es me off more than anything is that this house was illegaly converted under our noses, and then got a COL 3 months after the 4 year limit. ARGH!

Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on July 8, 2011 at 15:08

Hi Bushy, If Haringey Council are using private housing and the owners and/or management company are not up to standard, I strongly suggest contacting the Council's housing complaints team: housing.complaints@haringey.gov.uk

I also think that when owners/ managers are doing a good job and are responsive and helpful, this should be acknowledged as well. Not least by posting here. It helps when we recognise and encourage socially responsible companies which are "good neighbours".
Permalink Reply by Claudia Clare on July 16, 2011 at 22:46
Ah ha, this is very handy advice, thank you, Alan. I was wondering about the private landlord problem.
Permalink Reply by Rory Bergin on July 8, 2011 at 11:58

I've just had this response from Veolia

 

Thank you for your e-mail received on 8th July 2011 regarding the fly-tip. Your request has been logged under Job Ref No. 400757 and a crew will be deployed within the next 24 hours to clear the fly-tip.

 

Once again thank you for your e-mail and should you have any further queries/complaints please do not hesitate to contact us on 020 8885 7700 between 8.30am to 5.30pm (Monday – Friday) or alternatively via email at enquiries.haringey@veolia.co.uk  

Permalink Reply by Anette on July 8, 2011 at 22:17
No reply from Canver or Ellick, but a note through the door from Geraldo wanting to "discuss" the fly tipping idiot with me. Which part of my mobile phone number was it that he did not understand when I emailed him? Have now lost a full day + the week-end due to his inability to use a phone. Honestly...!
Permalink Reply by Anette on July 11, 2011 at 20:58

Update on this: Had an email from Brian Ellick today. They are "investigating". And will get the rubbish cleared soon. Not realising it's already gone. The house is used for temporary accommodation. That's 2 houses of a row of 3 used for this purpose on our road. I could cry!

 

I am not sure why they need to investigate, as I was a witness. Surely they have enough to prosecute? A couple of witnesses as well as photos? Any ideas..? If they do not prosecute anyone I will be absolutely furious.

Permalink Reply by John McMullan on July 11, 2011 at 21:29
Brian Ellick was the bloke who fined the builder opposite me £300, give him a bit of time, he seems pretty good.
Permalink Reply by Abi on July 11, 2011 at 21:53
Yes, from what I've heard from those who've had dealings, he's very good at what he does. I'd say it's worth talking to him to see if anything can be done about this problem in future.

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