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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Estate agents (Prickett & Ellis of Crouch End - where else) have now given the name "Crouch End Heights" to the north (higher) part of Stapleton Hall Road.  See the attached.  The property in question at 194 is just down the road from Quernmore Road.  What next Finsbury Park village?.  There was an attempt at Stroud Green Village, but this came to nothing.

Do advertising standards authority rules on advertising apply to estate agents?  Just think there might be some person somewhere who might be taken in by the “posh” address.  Note that reference is made to the shops in Crouch End - only 15 minutes walk (more like 20), however no mention that the Green Lanes shops are just five minutes walk away and Stroud Green Road only ten minutes walk. Suppose that they aren’t good enough.
The box on the roof - now there’s a story.  Way back in 1987 one weekend, a demolition crew came in and stripped the pitched roof off the house and built the box as a part of a roof extension.  A complaint was made to Haringey Council who ordered the pitched roof replaced.  The builders ignored this and appealed, in the end Thatcher’s Secretary of State for the Environment Nicholas Ridley allowed this piece of vandalism.  And then, to add insult to injury the good red brick work was painted.
The middle flat was sold about four months ago and has been lying empty ever since - why?
Konrad
Crouch End Heights resident

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and this from NHS, "Catchment area  - West green surgery", which has already gone into the history books as it's just been knocked down to be replaced by flats.

That's a bit expansionist! West Green ward roughly takes West Green Rd as its southern boundary and Westbury Ave/Lordship Lane as its northern and runs from Green Lanes across to the just beyond Broadwater Farm and Downhills Park.

Just forget all about administrative districts. They're nothing to do with neighbourhoods. They're functions of bureauracies that need to carve up areas into simillar sized populations. Set them aside and focus on history and resident opinion.

Actaully settlement at West Green and the name itself long predates the railway station. In the middle of the nineteenth century it was bigger than Wood Green.

Between Downhills and Belmont has always been part of West Green. East of that to Green Lanes, I'd go with Duckett's Green.

Way back in the 80s I used to live in a road near Hornsey Rise and a neighbour used to allude to our area as 'Highgate borders'.

Yup, when Crouchie was desperately unfashionable. People are much less likely to do that these days.

You've reminded me that in the early 90s, before CE took off, the head of the department where I worked advised someone not to put Crouch End as part of their address in their CV...

Blimey, unfashionable is one thing, but I've never heard of it as being thought of as undesirable!

Crouch End CENTRAL? Now that is interesting. Has anyone heard of Hornsey? And how about Tottenham Lane, Crouch End.

Who'd have thought this topic would excite such interest? Just to say I think most people wouldn't want to use the pretentious names dreamed up by estate agents (unless they can unselfconsciously declare that they live in Crouch End Heights - a hard task). It used to irritate me years ago when it was archly suggested that London is a collection of villages. Well, maybe it was for those who lived in aesthetically attractive places like Belsize Park, but no so for others. With the increasing population in London fewer people know their neighbours and many don't even try. But forums such as this one have made a big difference, I think. We have one in my area, campaign in local issues and meet each other in the real world besides the virtual one. I bet Harringay feels more like a community since HoL came along.

That's not Crouch End at all - that is Hornsey; is was and ever shall be. 

I was born in Sunderland just as huge social housing construction started. At that time town's areas were still largely defined by the villages that had been taken into the borders of the town, churches at the heart of an area and the functions of areas of the town. So people said they lived in places they called Town, Docks, St Chads, Town Moor and so on. Despite the new housing estates filling in the gaps between, old neighbourhoods kept their identity and boundaries. I absolutley knew when I walked from Hendon to Ashbrooke where the boundaries lay. I think that this was to do with the fact the people were still alive who knew them as villages and settlements and used those identities when talking about the places they lived in. In more recent visits back home I've seen the descriptions of those area become more fluid, perhaps as the original inhabitants have died and newer people moved into the area without that sense of just knowing that this is one place and that, even though a street away, is another,
Though some newer functional naming has happened. I know someone who says they live out at Nissan, near the vast Nissan factory there.

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