Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Bye bye Banksy!
For a few days now I've suspected something was afoot with Turnpike Lane's Banksy; it's been surrounded by scaffolding and tarpaulin since Wednesday - and there was a security van present for much of that time.
This morning I had a sneaky look under said tarpaulin to find it had been removed. I spoke to the guy rendering the wall and he said that after repeated attempts to gouge it out, the owner of the Poundland building had decided to take steps to 'preserve' it. He wasn't sure where it's gone...one can only wonder if it's been sold. Sad to see it go - it was nice to have a landmark of sorts...
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Permalink Reply by Seema Chandwani on
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The official name for our Banksy was called 'Slave Labour" - Workfare? Poundland? Courtcase?.... Hmmm, what an irony ... or?
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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Who owns it? Doesn't it belong to the author, Banksy?
Poundland, or its freeholder, owns the wall and the render. Banksy owns the paint for sure, and the copyright, unless Poundland have bought it. I don't know how fine art ownership works - I know that if I sell someone a print, that doesn't give the print owner licence to reproduce it, unless there has been a separate licence agreement which will have limits re extent and time.
But Poundland could sue for criminal damage to their property. It's complicated.
Can we get Paddy Power to give us odds on it reaching the reserve price?
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Permalink Reply by Judith Box on
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As far as I can determine. It's owned by whomever owns the building. I am certain they checked the legals before removing it. It's also on the Banksy website, so whilst he doesn't sign his work it's as authenticated as it can be, and therefore valuable and collectible.
I'm sad to see it go, though I can understand the temptation to sell. Is it morally right? Well that's something we could debate all day.
Art for the most part remains the property of collectors and therefore the rich. I guess everytime Banksy creates something like this, he is open to the irony that is may be used in ways that are contrary to the points he is trying to make. But that is ironic in itself.
I'm pleased it was here and made an impression. It would be nice if the community benefited somehow from the sale, but human greed being what it is, I somehow doubt it.
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Permalink Reply by Marie on
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Well put Judith, I agree with everything you say. I live a stones throw from where is was and there was a real buzz when it appeared, it certainly did make an impression. You don't need to be middle class to appreciate it or enjoying debating the meaning of it or to miss it either.
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Pound land have just announced(on twitter) that they are not responsible for the removal or selling of the banksy and are currently investigating .... The plot thickens!
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Permalink Reply by HK on
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Matt
Wood Green Investments (Company No. 05497555) appears to own number 12 High Road.
The registered office is their accountants' office.
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//wcframe?name=accessCompanyInfo
No Poundland based plot...
H
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Permalink Reply by Julia Richards-Davies on
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Are you positive about the owner's details? I have seen another person say these are the owners. At least they could confirm that the work was legally sold and not stolen...
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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Interesting HK. Cookie settings won't allow me through to your link. See they're based in Essex not Wood Green. Elsewhere, these retail consultants certainly highlight the 'banksy' in their literature - funny old world ain't it.
Interestingly the document says, 'The ground floor is let to Poundland Limited for 15 years from 30th July 2007 on full repairing and insuring terms. Maybe Poundland decided the wall needed repairing. Anything for a quick buck :)
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The Woodford Green address belongs to the company's accountants and one of the directors uses the same address on Companies' House. Assume they'll be advising on the tax due!
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Permalink Reply by Katie K on
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Alan Strickland, who I think is a Noel Park councillor, is asking people to email the auction house to ask them to withdraw the Banksy from sale:
Alan Strickland
@AlanStricklandPls RT. Save our Banksy from sale. Let's all email art company auctioning it on info@faamiami.com. Tell them to withdraw it from auction.
Katie
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If the work was removed by the property owner and it is his in law, what is the point of emailing the auction? It has clearly been sold on to an art dealer who is now putting it in the auction.
It's a shame that all the people who saw the scaffolding and the security van for the days before didn't say something at the time, we may have been able to save it. Now it's in Miami, has passed legally though two hands and is up for auction within the week. I can't see that there is anything that can be done now.
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