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Ah… My Turkish is non-existent, so I jumped to the wrong conclusion. More bling on the high street!
I remember this shop, I lived on green lanes just past Salisbury rd, mum sent me there every Saturday to pick up the roast, liver and sausages. I think the butchers name was Charlie, he had a small moustache and was very dapper. Happy memories
Hi Andrew: Haven't written for a while but will do so soon. There was Gunners the butchers on Grand Parade, but don't remember this butcher. At Gunners there were three fellows working there and very nice chaps they were. it also makes me sad because on the day my Dad died in 1972 we were walking by Gunners when he had his heart attack. They took my dad in and sat him down while I ran back to our flat, 5a and told my mum and also called Dr. Irwin. They took him to Prince of Wales Hospital where he passed.
Hi Brian, look forward to hearing from you, I don’t recall Gunners, we lived above Dewhurst the butchers, are they the same. Being an Arsenal supporter I should remember having such a great name!!!
Sorry to read of your dad's passing Brian. The mention of Dr Irwin drew my attention. And to hear still in practice in '72. He was our family GP through the '50s (we lived in Harringay Road) but for some reason switched to a GP next to the old Downhills School. His name appears on my maternal grandmothers death certificate as 'M. Cathcart Owen' in 1950. I recall him as a white haired man. All rather insignificant Brian, sorry.
John: Thanks for your response to my Dad's passing. It seems strange that I've now lived 18 years and counting more than he did. Although memory has a way of obscuring the past we had a family joke that no matter what ailed you when you visited Dr. Irwin he always said the same " take two asprins and get some rest."
John do you remember Mr. Fone who had the newspaper stand outside The Salisbury? I did a paper round for him and also helped out at the newspaper stand. He had a man working for him named Tom. I would go round to a cafe - Lennys maybe - where Salisbury Road and St. Ann's Road met. I would get him a big mug of tea and a bacon sandwich - I can smell that bacon sandwich now.
I haven't been in the neighbourhood for the past few months, but yesterday, walking past this shop, I spoke with the workers and was able to find the new owners. Both were very friendly and clearly interested in the shop's history and in not casually disposing of the remaining artefacts.
The two old shop signs have been removed, but one is to be retained probably in the office, the fate of the second more damaged one is yet to be determined.
Mehmet told me that the workers had proposed removing the old tiles, but that he and is business partner were happy to lose a couple of inches of space so that the wall could be preserved - and that is what has happened. That's good news!
In looking for this thread to share with the two guys, we came across Justin's post from 2015, when he photographed the last occasion on which this old sign was uncovered.
Thanks so much, Hugh, what an incredible piece of research! We really appreciate the time and care you’ve put into uncovering the history of the shop and the area. It’s a real privilege for us to now be part of a space with such a rich story behind it.
As we discussed during your visit, we absolutely love, value, and respect the history here. That’s why we’ve chosen to preserve the original tiles and signage. A section of the side sign has been saved and is currently being prepared to be mounted in the shop’s office. We’d also be very happy to donate the front sign to Bruce Castle Museum if they’d like to include it in their collection. It’s important to us that the legacy of the building and its previous lives isn’t lost.
Thanks again for helping keep this local history alive. It truly means a lot to us.
Thanks Mehmet. I've contacted Deborah, the curator at Bruce Castle and will get back to you one I get a reply.
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