Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Another Banksy removed for sale by Sincura
I may be last to the party with this, but another local Banksy piece has been ripped from it's wall to be sold by the Sincura group - in Tottenham.
News item on BBC
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Permalink Reply by dont want to give name on
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you are glad that the authorities are not being logical. So you won't mind then if the police stop and search you for no logical reason. If that is your logic. Or if the authorities treat you in a bad way that defies logic. Because that is where your logic would end?
some people think that graffit tags are asethetically pleasing and are art, but as their voices are a minority opinion they are ignored. So are you saying that minorities should have their opinion ignored? Seems a bit discriminatory to me. Graffiti tags should be cleaned off walls just like banksy should be if on publicly owned walls.
just asking
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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If Banksy produces a stencil, does it matter who actually does the paint job using the stencil ? Surely the art is in the stencil.
We admire Durer's art but do we care who ran the plate through the printing press ?
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It is of course against the law for Banksy's employed workers to wheat paste up his stencils on walls that don't belong to them. Unless they get permission from the owner of the wall first, which they don't do. So Cllr Kober and Ms Featherstone are promoting illegal activity and criminal damage by campaigning in the media on Banksy's behalf. We can all see that clearly.
All the people who say they want Banksy's art to stay are promoting illegal criminal damage. Which is immoral.
I am afraid I can't show you the artwork that I would like to because Haringey Council graffiti removal team has removed it.
It may not matter John but it's Banksy's hypocrisy that I am objecting to.
Banksy did of course do alot of graffiti tagging before he ripped off blek le rat.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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I actually think it's an interesting argument. Who decides what is vandalism and what is art? Perhaps the difference is in intent but unless the artists delivers an essay with every work, intent is up for interpretation. I wouldn't personally want to be the arbiter on that one.
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cara, do you have any views? seeing as you started this thread?
just asking
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Interesting comment Mr Anderson. I am not sure that i entirely agree with you however, as i think the motivation of the artist is to fullfill the psycological compulsion to create art; and to express themselves; and to satisfy the ego; and I think the artists or vandals do that... and to earn a living as well...
I mentioned Bambi who is a lady who does street art locally. She is also a famous celebrity in the UK in real life who is well known. I noticed the council cleaned off her street art. Are the council trying to be sexist or something?
Bambi's street art is similar to a Banksy stencil ,satarising a political idea, quite fun.Sometimes on the parkland walk i see some good art that councils dont remove like that giant frog a few years ago, that was near the earth spirit sculpture, called the spriggan.
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chris setz - that is an amusing photo, " society gets the vandalism it deserves"
clever piece of satirical vandalism. in my mind a commentary on banksy...
is it a banksy? it cant be can it unless he is taking the mickey out of himself... that would be ironic... banksy has already called people who buy his art "idiots" so it wouldnt surprise me if he thinks the public are idiots too...
dont answer that as cllr kober and ms featherstone will be on their hotline to the media again saying how much they like vandals, as long as its not on the side of their house, in which case the council graffiti removal team will be round ASAP.
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If you can't beat them, join them! Worker sent to remove graffiti finds image of himself sprayed onto same wall hours later
- Original work by stencil artist DS was removed within hours
- Graffiti artist decided to turn image of clean up into his next work
- Image of worker painting over graffiti is now painted onto wall in Essex Road, London
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Sent to clear up some unwanted graffiti, this workerman couldn't have imagined he would be the inspiration for the next work on the very same wall.
But this is the moment an artist decided to turn an image of the man sent to remove his artwork into art.
Stencil artist - who is known only as ‘DS’ - created his first piece ‘Bad Kitty’ on a wall in London as an amusing comment on the ‘squeaky clean image’ of the Hello Kitty character.
DS, who is 28, and from London, created his artwork in May but eight hours later he was surprised to see someone already in the process of removing it.
Clear up: The unnamed workerman started removing the graffiti - unaware he has become a model for the next artwork to appear on the same wall
Deciding to document the act of erasing his work, DS took photos of the moment and then used one to show the man that removed it.
Amazingly the artwork featuring the mystery man has not been removed and is still on the wall in Essex Road, Islington, today.
DS said: 'I did the first piece ‘Bad Kitty’ late last year with the second May this year.
'The first piece isn’t my style but I have a bit of a dislike of Hello Kittys squeaky clean image so I wanted to use her and Miffy.
Centre of attention: A stenciled representation of the workerman, pictured removing the Hello Kitty work, left, is now featured on the same wall, right, which he was sent to clean up
Exhibition: The new work is becoming a local fixture having been left on the wall of the shop on Essex Road, Islington
'My reaction to it being removed was a little different than normally.
Knowing a piece as been removed or painted over doesn’t bother me, it’s the name of the game in graffiti but this time was a little different as it only lasted eight hours.
In action: Stencil artist - who is known only as DS - decided to make the removal of his first piece of graffiti the basis for his second work
'So you can imagine my frustration when coming back I found the council (or private company I’m not sure) starting the process of erasing it from the wall - which I documented.
'Looking through the images I took I saw a great one of the removals man so I wanted to put him up in the same space.
'Having known they were mighty quick to respond to graffiti there I was up early the next day in hope to get a photo of him, removing a stencil of him, removing a stencil.
'I thought it would rip a hole in the space-time continuum or something. He came when I was across the road having breakfast, after a while and having his photo taken next to it lots of times he left it.'
DS said it was a strange time for street art at the moment.
He said: 'Banksy does a piece and it gets protected by the council with perspex and another piece from a just as edgy artist with better technical skills gets taken down.
'I don’t think the council should decide on the legitimacy or worthiness of a piece but rather let graffiti run it’s natural course even if that means great art being painted over - another one will takes its place.
Islington Council said it was not aware of the graffiti and that it was not one of their employees who had removed the work from the wall.
A spokesman said: 'There are three reasons we would clean off graffiti: If it is offensive, if it is on council property, or if it is on private property and the owner wants it removed.'
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the fourth reason art is removed is if it is not by banksy....
it has been removed from essex rd opposite "the diner" i had a look 2day,it has been whitewashed over by islington council perhaps.although perhaps they are denying all knowledge of course.
in the side roads off essex rd there is some quite good street art
my favourite is "diamonds are a girls best friend" about ten metres off essex rd in a side rd. a picture of the queen wearing diamonds.
also thing with the pharoahs on the side of the chemists on essex rd
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Permalink Reply by Neville Collins on
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To be honest, I don't give a sh*t about the mural. We should ALL be getting angry about this:
Retired Anglican vicar ready to go to jail in his battle for poor
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A priest who is actually a Christian - surely something to celebrate.
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Nev, you aren't trying to deflect criticism away from Islington Council are you by any chance?
Because you did say on a previous thread that you were employed by Islington Council's cleansing team.
If so, good show of loyalty to your boys. But The Daily Mirror article doesn't quite fit with the thread?
You aren't the bloke in the photo above in the daily mail article are you by any chance? Seems like that stencil was on the wall for a couple of months before it was cleaned off when The Daily Mail article came out.
Am I right or am i right?
So what is Islington Councils unoffical policy on removing street art but leaving up Banksy then?
Good luck to the vicarage for risking going to jail at the age of 82, very very brave in my opinion to risk jail at that age or any age...good rev... a bit like the vicarage on the tv show called Rev, but better, or should I say The Vicar of Dibley...
mr anderson, i agree with you, vicarages actually seem to believe in God these days ,like the archbish and his wonga campaign to allow credit unions on church property...and this rev...
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