Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
ID for voting? What do people think?
I'm totally in favour of this. It's common sense IMHO. I can't see why some folks are opposed to it.
Every time I start a new job, open a bank or credit account or pick up a parcel I have to produce some kind of ID. What's the big deal about showing some ID before you vote?
I'm very in favour of ID cards too. I'm fed up of having to dig out copies of utility bills and passport copies for ID. I have to do this quite frequently for work. It's such a pain. I want to have one central thing that identifies me beyond doubt. If they can manage this in India then ...
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Permalink Reply by JJ B on
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@Maggie...That is nonsense. For some people not being able to pull out id is restrictive of liberty. So it works both ways. Nothing is stopping you from walking about the country freely. How often have you been stopped and asked for ID? Why would that change? That is the irrationality that comes out in the debate as always.
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Its nothing to do with the size. I do not carry a purse/ wallet/ handbag/ phone/ cards etc.
Does your ID have an address? How is this updated when you move? Does it involve proving change of address with documents?
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Is that change made on line or do you have to send proofs of change of address?
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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This was in the 70s so on line didn't exist. You had to go to the Maison Communale to do it.
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My point being that it seems that most people requesting utility bills to verify address etc state that they have to be less than 3-6 months old. How would this work with an ID system; would you have to prove that you still live at the address on the ID by verifying with utility bills? Genuine question as I don't know how it functions.
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Going back to the original point about voting - at least once every year I am asked to complete a voters' registration form to give the names of everybody resident at my address. Is there anything to stop me putting down ten fictitious names and then using their poll cards to support my right to vote ten times ?
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Permalink Reply by StephenBln on
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Exactly, I am aware of a situation where an US Based British citizen (Resident there for over 30 years) is on a LB electoral list in order to receive and use the Freedom Pass when back in London. There's nothing to stop that person voting, if he/she wanted.
Nobody checks that those on the list are actually resident or not. Doing things 'on trust' is just not good practice for today.
In case anybody wonders, it's not me. I haven't been allowed to vote in the U.K. since 2000/01.
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Are you allowed to vote in Germany? In theory my mother could vote in Belgium but doesn't. I think she's allowed to vote for the London mayor and in local elections....
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I think that's the current EU 'norm', which of course, will be up for negotiation.
Brits living abroad are currently only allowed to vote for 18 years in the last U.K. constituency they lived in. This is likely to be changed during this parliament.
In Germany, as in Belgium I guess, only nationals may vote in general elections, but EU citizens are allowed to vote in local elections.
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