Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Dangerous cycle lane on Wightman road
I couldnt quite believe this tiny cycle lane over the bridge has been painted back in. I thought the days of these had long gone, because they are just so dangerous. It gives cars permission and confidence in thinking they can safetly pass a bike on the bridge without pulling out at all, so long as there car wheel is only as far as the line. Which clearly there isn't room
I cant believe anyone from LCC had anything to do with this.
Anyone in the council, can you paint over this line or put in a lane which is actually wide enough for bikes to ride in. I hate cycling along Wightman road because its so dangerous, and so tend to avoid it and use green lanes which feels much better,mainly due to traffic going much slower. And Im a really experienced cyclist. For less experienced cyclist this is potentially a death trap
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Isn't overtaking on a bend or a narrow bridge forbidden?
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Permalink Reply by 26mhcx4vtb0rb on
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Rule 166
DO NOT overtake if there is any doubt, or where you cannot see far enough ahead to be sure it is safe. For example, when you are approaching
- a corner or bend
- a hump bridge
- the brow of a hill.
"Do not" in that context means you shouldn't, but it's not specifically illegal.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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More helpful driving advice from the US Embassy in Ankara here.
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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- Drive each day as though you were on a mission, the goal of which is not to be involved in an accident, cause an accident, or strike a pedestrian.
Americans ....
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Permalink Reply by CanadianMichael on
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Nice.
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On the back of many TfL buses, and adopted by the government 'THINK!' campaign.
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I'm a driver and don't cycle, the path maybe narrow but in my view that it not the problem, it is sh*t, impatient, oblivious, obnoxious, arrogant drivers around here. The rest of the drivers will respect the width of the road/path, and allow the cyclist go in front patiently. But hey...
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Permalink Reply by Mavic Starfish on
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Couldn't agree more Rob, and I drive as well. Cycling has made me more patient in my car around cyclists, as in even more than I used to be. I really give them a wide berth even on a big road and I hang well back on a small road.
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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I think you are spot on Rob. The quality of many of the drivers leaves much to be desired.
I think the issue is, most local drivers (residents) treat our roads as somewhere we live and are mindful of others around us. Commuter traffic on the other hand see our roads simply as one of many obstacles to be overcome on their journey from A to B. Anything in their way is viewed mealy as an impediment!
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Permalink Reply by JulieB on
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I agree Rob I see quite a few rude, aggressive and obnoxious drivers, however I think it's down to the individual driver rather than where they come from.
I drive carefully where ever I am, not just my local area. I'm sure the majority of others do too.
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Permalink Reply by Simon Munk on
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Hi folks,
I'm Simon Munk - grew up in Haringey (bottom of Muswell Hill) and now live in Walthamstow. I'm the Infrastructure Campaigner for the London Cycling Campaign.
Can I just reassure Tigha and everyone that you'd be right not to "believe anyone from LCC had anything to do with this". The local group, Haringey Cyclists, are spitting mad about this. I don't know if they've formally objected to it yet - but I'm about to email them to suggest if they haven't yet to hurry up and do so, and you might want to send in objections to the council also (and hey, any of you who cycle might also want to become members also).
The lane is too narrow. Studies show that drivers tend to pass cyclists with as much room as cyclists give themselves from the kerb. So this lane will encourage cyclists to ride closer to the kerb, and then drivers to pass closer. It's horrible.
To be clear also, poor driver behaviour tends to come directly from poorly-designed streets. The Dutch aren't magically more courteous drivers. They just have loads of road designs that encourage calm driving and separate people cycling so they feel safer. So if Haringey is full of terrible drivers, as some have said here, the likely reason is poor street design - that encourages speed and aggression etc.
Finally, fairly obviously, London Cycling Campaign want to see a solution for Wightman Road and other primarily residential streets that reduces through traffic or removes it altogether, as part of an area-wide strategy.
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