Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Review of Local Buildings of Merit List vy Council
I understand that the council is undertaking a review of their local list of buildings of merit which is out of date.
However there is no public consultation or input to this - there is no mention of it on the webpages relating to the local list or public consultations.
That means to me that it is secret.
It is possible that local CAACs (Conservation Area Advisory Committees) are aware but this includes a small number of people.
As a local resident and someone interested in our heritage buildings I would like to have an opportunity to input to any revised list (by suggesting buildings not currently included).
Is anyone else aware of this review?
Has anyone been consulted in any capacity?
Are our councillors aware?
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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I'd like to know how we can input on this too. For example, there is a good architectural reason to add South Harringay's School buildings to the list.
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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Here's a link to the current list, which dates from 1997 with a minor update in 2004:
http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/register_of_lo...
Here are the Harringay listings:
Eade Road N4 New River aqueduct (west from Seven Sisters Road
through Finsbury Park & north to Seymour Road)
Green Lanes N4 No. 359 (The Beaconsfield Public House)
Green Lanes N8 No. 677 (Queen’s Head Public House) (Frobisher Road)
Seymour Road N8 New River aqueduct south to Finsbury Park
Vale Road N4 Former Maynard’s Sweet Factory
Wightman Road N8 New River aqueduct south from embankment tunnelWot about the Salisbury? That's OK, that's nationally - not locally - listed.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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"Green Lanes N8 No. 677 (Queen’s Head Public House) (Frobisher Road) "
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha :(
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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I'm keen for the Disney shop front to be on the local list so if anyone knows who is conducting the review and how we can have some input could you flag it here please
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I think Lesley's point is where is the general invite to contribute to this? They have asked in the past for the public to contribute. If only conservation area committees have been invited that means that areas like ours not granted that status don't even have a 'way in' to the discussion.
There was a discussion on 2010 which included a link to a form to nominate - this is now a defunct page. There is an address but not sure if it is current.
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I've just written to planning asking how the public can get involved in the review. I'll let you know what I hear back
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Had a very prompt and helpful reply from Haringey planning. See below
Thank you for your email. We haven’t started the process formally yet and do not intend to do so before September. We have approached our Conservation Area Advisory Committees (CAACs) in the first instance to work with us to draft a sufficiently robust nomination criteria following which we would be going to a borough wide public consultation on a draft local list. At that stage, anybody would be able to nominate a building on the local list and the Council will then consider it. A finalised list would be taken to cabinet for adoption.
If you would like to get involved in the inception stage, I would suggest contact your local Conservation Area Advisory Committee. The following link includes the whole list. Otherwise, lookout for publicities on the Haringey council webpage where we would be requesting you as well as all other residents to come forward with nominations based on the agreed criteria.
http://www.haringey.gov.uk/planning-and-building-control/planning/p...
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Permalink Reply by Lesley Ramm on
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Thank you for this. It is disappointing to note that only areas covered by a CAAC are being talked to. And that the list of CAACs is not up to date. Apparently Hornsey split from Crouch End CAAc some time ago but this is not even listed.
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Coombes Croft, the former fire station in Conway Rd N15 is also on the local list. Some of us locals and the 2 local councillors Barbara and Peter, opposing a planning permission application for a single storey flat roofed extension to the Victorian cottage frontage (8 Priscilla Close) attached to the side of Coombes Croft, told the Planning Committee this Monday about this listing. But they still voted almost unanimously (with single exception of Cllr Carter LibDem) to support the application. Apparently local listing doesn't affect planning law, and so the planning committee didn't have to worry about this.
We had been trying to get the whole cluster of buildings in Priscilla Close locally listed, (including the former slipper baths) but as you say, their system for getting things listed is currently out of action.
I'll do a separate post about this. It was so shocking after all the heartfelt local objections to this extension, that none of our concerns were even acknowledged. We had discovered that the various buy to let owners of Priscilla Place had let the joint management company which owns and should maintain the private roadway and public areas of the Close, to fold in 2009 so that it's now abandoned land. As a result there's no maintenance, or parking control, or collection of dumping etc. It's a nightmare for the tenants. We asked the planning committee to use the lever they have to force the owners to reform the joint management company by refusing planning permission to add further numbers to this failed development. They ignored our appeal, and gave permission!
We'll keep going. Next step is a meeting for residents of Priscilla and local streets. Watch this space.
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