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Harringay - LED street lights - you'll need your sunglasses

Bathe in the new bright LED street lights of Hampden Rd next time your passing through. Stand under one and you could be forgiven for thinking you're on the set of the film Close Encounters of the Third Kind, just don't look up for you'll be blinded by the light (rather than beamed up).

Seriously though these lights are awful!!

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Permalink Reply by Paul on October 23, 2015 at 13:11

I might come along Matt.  I would need to be there at 11:00am as I need to head off after that.  Fancy going together?

Permalink Reply by matt on October 23, 2015 at 13:18

Great, see you then. And anyone else if they would like to.

Permalink Reply by Paul on October 23, 2015 at 14:55

Actually I just got a call back from Harringay (following my email) and they have offered to fit a shroud on the lamp which may fix the problem.

Apparently it will take three working days though.  I will come along anyway though.

Permalink Reply by Gordon T on October 23, 2015 at 15:22

Paul, that's useful information for others in a similar situation.

Thanks for doing the leg-work - and a tick for Haringey that they got back to you promptly.

Permalink Reply by Hugh on October 23, 2015 at 15:31

That's an impressive response time. Makes you wonder if they put themselves on a 'war footing' to stop the build-up of any resistance.

Permalink Reply by Geoff on October 24, 2015 at 22:22

The new street lights are an incredible improvement all round. (1) The streets are much better regarding safety of pedestrians and home security at night. The downwardly directed broader spread of light illuminates the whole street and the areas around houses and vehicles sufficiently to significantly reduce the risks of not being able to see the way home and to minimise the dark areas where potential assailants or burglars could hide, whereas the previous orange lighting was pooled and many areas of the street were thrown in to darkness with consequent impacts on personal security. (2) Compared to the orange lights they are downwardly directed so there is much reduced visual pollution. If installed city-wide, maybe the grim orange glow above the conurbation would disappear! Looking up at the old, orange lights, one notices very high glare which is distributed in all directions; the new lights have brightness, but it is more contained - and in both cases one doesn't spend time looking up at them, anyway; you just concentrate on getting from A to B with the view generally directed at head height, not upwards. (3) LEDs are desirable in terms of energy efficiency. (4) A new street light is installed directly in front of our house and there is negligible impact on light levels indoors, no greater than the orange lighting, and arguably less, once the curtains are drawn when dark. (5) Well done, Haringey, for this bold, beneficial and energy-saving initiative.

Permalink Reply by Gordon T on October 27, 2015 at 22:23

Now on Umfreville - so far the two lights nearest Green Lanes, only. A bit 'film set', but brighter/sharper than the previous, to mid-60s eyes.

Permalink Reply by Paul on October 28, 2015 at 10:25

I couldn't agree more Geoff.  The lights are brilliant (forgive the pun) at the job they're designed to do.

My issue is that there are unintended consequences - significant light pollution.

I think one of the reasons that people have them fitted outside their houses are OK and others on the opposite side of the road are suffering is because the lamp posts are leaning back in some cases.

See this beauty from Seymour Road.  I know it's negligible but added to a hill and the poorly shrouded design and it all adds up.  They should have been fitted with adjustable shrouds as standard and could therefore be tailored to their environment.

Permalink Reply by Issy on October 28, 2015 at 9:59

I definitely see these as an improvement for personal safety coming home from work and efficiency - Geoff covers all the reasons nicely. Its not as bright as before, its still light but that's London lights and and bay windows are tricky for blocking out the light - I've got blackout curtains but light creeps around the side.

Permalink Reply by Maddy on October 31, 2015 at 1:18

I keep thinking a spaceship has landed outside the front door! On the other hand I was walking up Mountview rd  the other evening and could hardly see where I was going - wonder if they'll get the horrid new bright lights up there as it really changes the feel of the area. Surely there's something the council could do to mitigate the glare of these, whilst not diminishing their effectiveness?

Permalink Reply by matt on October 31, 2015 at 1:41

Well two of us from this conversation have put in for more information via one of our councillors so we'll see what comes back from that. Normally takes a couple of weeks or so.

Permalink Reply by Lauren on October 31, 2015 at 22:56
Perpetual daylight in our sitting room. We're on the upper ground floor on Pemberton. I bought an orange lamp from Homebase and this seems to counteract the harsh whiteness of it so that we can relax in the evenings. Monday night my cat wouldnt sleep, and 8kg of cat leaping about the place bothers me more than the floodlight outside. I'm currently staying with a pal in Warwick, where the streetlights are turned off at 12.00 other than the main ambulance runs.

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