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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Sorry to mention the elephant in the room but something scary is happening to house prices in the local area. I'm talking about some places rising by over 10% in the last week. Nearly 40 % in the last two years.

Speak to the estate agents, something unprecedented it's happening with the cost of home ownership, especially between wood green tube and ally pally.

It's possible this government may become known as seeing through the largest distribution of wealth from the poor to the rich ever ....

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The difference is that German tenants have very strong rights and German pensions (were) very good.

I've got nothing against a long term renting model if society is structured to support it. We used to have that, with long term council tenancies which carried security of tenure.

My concern is that we don't have that any more, we have short term tenancies, little council housing and pensions which will not provide for long term private renting. Basically the German model is end to end whereas we seem to be ending up with a cut and shunt job where the two halves don't match up.

Do not get me wrong, I am not advocating it, but you raise some interesting points if we are heading back that way...

Worth reading this article, from the The Socialist.

Posted by David Kaplan, TUSC candidate for Harringay ward, along with Kiran Patel and Patrick Burland

Newcastle would work well for that. Pretty good for grown up (aka state subsidised) culture at the Sage and the Baltic, very safe, and loads of central new-build apartments from the last boom.

Crisis not crash. We probably are already in crisis when you think of the London property market. House on my street , which would have sold last year for £320k, went on market for £475k beginning of April and now shows as sold for £500 k in estate agents. This is a 3 bedroom house!!!!
Ordinary salary earners cannot afford these prices. Rental gives no guarantees of being able to live comfortably at a reasonable price. People need decent homes where they can have families in stable surroundings so that mixed communities thrive. We are not getting that in London.
We are already in crisis and neither the Tories nor Labour are dealing with this.
You are so wrong TBD. People don't just come to london to work. They come because it's got the best gigs, art gallery's, museums, skyline, parks, events, lectures, free happenings, late night parties and the most beautiful, innovative, well connected and open minded people than any other city in the UK.

You need to get out more, you're oddly downbeat of what is actually one of the most exciting parts of the world.

The issue I think is we need to ensure that we share the space in an equitable and cleverly planned way so that they're are not empty bedrooms and hoarded empty land owned by some people whilst working people that keep the place going have to commute from hell to get here.

I suggest we start digging down.

You're so wrong, FPR. Glasgow can beat anything London has to offer. And,to the point, a young member of my family just bought a ground-floor two-bedroom, completely modernised flat for £44,000. And this, 30 minutes by car from the city centre.

A further 50 mins and you're on the shores of Loch Lomond. The only thing you have to worry about is the occasional helicopter dropping through your pub ceiling

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TBD you have got the wrong end of the stick so many times I don't know where to start....

The Picasso reference that my mum made was nothing to do with you, it was just a failure on her behalf to realise that everyone that has the generic 'Picasso' picture is not the same person.

In regards to me being 'seriously prejudiced and against the French'', pretty harsh allegation and not fair at all but happy to assume you're just having a bad day to let the thread get back to the debate in hand.
I would prefer to be a fool with the right end of the stick myself but everyone to there own. X
I totally disagree Mr Hole. London is experiencing something that only happens once every thousand years or so I believe. After an amazing empire has flourished and fallen, a captivating city of that empire can enjoy an incredible after glow period as architecture, families, ideas, skills and systems continue to burn bright for decades after.

I think this is what London is experiencing now and with carful management and some good luck it will last a very long time.

For right or wrong, no other city has managed to steal and display so many of the worlds artefacts, or had such a well recorded and impressive history that still exists in so many ways in the modern day or holds so many internationally well connected people and institutions or experts in so many fields, or enjoys the centrifugal force of being in the centre of the worlds most popular language etc.

The London buzz, if well managed, is here to stay.

London is experiencing something that only happens once every thousand years or so

I so agree with FPR. And how can Billy Hole drag in  Dublin and the celtic tiger by the scruff of the neck, rather than taking the long(boat) view. The Dublin housing bubble that finally popped in the spring of 1014 was caused by rival gangs of Viking developers, Fair Foreigners from Norway and Dark Foreigners from Denmark. That the aged Irish High King, Brian Boru, fell victim to the sword of Broder in the Good Friday DisAgreement at Clontarf on 23rd April 1014 was just the final tragic blow in a comedy of ghost estates which featured Viking adventurers on either side in Ireland's earlier civil war. Now where was Nigel Farrage and his BNP when we needed them?

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