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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

After it was discovered at the St Ann's Labour Party selection candidate selection meeting that there were people present and voting who should not have been, I came home from the pub (where I'd heard about it) and wrote this article. It has subsequently been edited by site admins to remove the names of people who were embarrassed or in the final case where a journalist said it was potentially libellous. Well here I will attempt to summarise what we have subsequently found out and hopefully take people's attention away from my original appalling rant.

Back in May (The Ward AGM):

  • The St Ann's Ward AGM was convened on Thursday the 23rd of May instead of the usual first Wednesday of June by the then Ward Secretary, Barbara Blake.
  • Protests were made by members about this but they were rebuffed by the Ward Chairman.
  • At this meeting The current Ward Secretary resigned and there was bloc voting to decide the new Ward Secretary.
  • A person in the bloc opposing John Blake turned up late and was prevented from voting despite there being nothing about this in the Labour Party rules.
  • John Blake was elected Ward Secretary by one vote.

The Selection Meeting:

  • The meeting was run by The Secretary of the St Ann's Labour Party , and Steve Hart from Hornsey & Wood Green.
  • A candidate who arrived early noticed the five members arrive with Ali Gul Ozbek, sensed that something was up and mentioned it to Barbara Blake. When the other candidate seemed unhelpful they mentioned it to Steve Hart. Then the candidate went looking for the five people but was barred from entering the room (3o minutes before the selection) by the Ward Secretary.
  • By the time one member I have spoken to arrived, the five members were seated at the back of the room. Four men and one woman (who works in Ali Ozbek's Pharmacy).
  • A blonde woman turned up before anyone had started speaking but was barred from entering the room by the Ward Secretary, despite remonstrating with him.
  • Barbara Blake won in the first round (to select a female candidate) against Zena Brabazon and Emine Ibrahim by two votes. It was 11/1/14. Everybody voted.
  • It is alleged that one candidate knew the questions in advance and had prepared answers.
  • At the appropriate point in the meeting the secretary asked if everyone was OK with the others in the room and everybody laughed.
  • There were various factions voting together in the room; the five new members, Charles Adje's family, Zena and David's people and the Ward Secretary's people.
  • In the final round Ali Ozbek and Peter Morton were selected, beating Zena by one vote.
  • Ali is a local chemist and businessman on Green Lanes who seemed very passionate about what should be done with St Ann's and spoke eloquently about the need to reduce business rates. He is also a property developer.
  • At the time Peter worked as head of press for the Labour Party.
  • Barbara is a trade union official and ex Ward Secretary.

After the Selection Meeting

  • A fellow councillor calls David to commiserate with him.
  • David Browne and Zena Brabazon did some investigation using the St Ann's Labour Party membership list and the electoral roll.
  • They discovered that nineteen new members signed up that year did not actually live in St Ann's and that they had either given Green Lanes business addresses when they signed up or claimed addresses in the ward.
  • Not one of these new members, many of whom were recruited on the 8th of July gave an address in the ward at which they are eligible to vote, which is required by party rules.
  • Five of these members were "eligible" to vote because they signed up before the cut off date of the 30th of April, however they should have been barred from voting because they do not actually live in the ward.
  • Zena and David wrote to their local Labour Party officials who sent their evidence on to the London Labour Party.
  • Nobody can tell me for sure where Ali Ozbek lives but he claims an address in Finsbury Park Avenue.
  • Ali Ozbek has donated money to the Labour Party.
  • According to a twitter exchange with a Labour councillor in another ward, the membership list should have been gone through before the meeting by the person running it to make sure this kind of thing did not happen, it was certainly done in their ward.
  • When one of the five members who voted was called at his home his partner informed the caller that he had been in Turkey for a while and was not due back yet.
  • In Harringay several new Labour Party members were registered using Green Lanes business addresses but not before the cut off date.
  • Barbara Blake has told local traders that it is OK to register as a member in the Labour Party from a business address (it is definitely not) and the Tottenham Membership Secretary has expressed a similar view in a meeting, only to be corrected.

The "Corruption in Haringey Labour" article.

  • After I wrote the original article, in which I also made some allegations against Claire Kober, the only phone call to site admins was to remove the Secretary of the St Ann's Labour party's name from the discussion.
  • There was a lot of comment on the original thread and as of Saturday the 12th of October it appears to have been viewed more than 7000 times, although I dispute that as a useful metric (I think the actual figure is much lower).
  • After some badgering it was picked up by an overworked Stephen Moore at the Tottenham Journal, here.

Trying to get a re-run

  • I have pushed the councillor who commiserated David on his loss on Twitter to join calls asking for a re-run of the election but they have resolutely refused, to the point where it's all a bit weird and "la la la, I can't hear you".
  • As it stands the London Labour Party have agreed that the five people were not eligible to vote but they say that this was not picked up before or during the meeting so the result stands. Their investigation consisted of speaking to the Ward Secretary and Steve Hart. Steve Hart lied because someone did speak to him before the meeting.
  • The London Labour Party have the attendance list and will not release it, presumably because it shows that people were not identified correctly and that at least two of the five were imposters.
  • Appeals to the NEC have all been rebuffed, even with the full acknowledgement of what went on.

The Labour doorstep in Harringay

  • The St Ann's Labour Party have a great deal of trouble getting members to help them out with canvassing. A photograph has been tweeted showing more than 20 people out in Harringay Ward above the same session in St Ann's, with just two.
  • When David Lammy, after a lot of badgering apparently, stepped out in St Ann's for the Labour doorstep he was met by a picket of local men calling on him not to support the St Ann's fraudsters. As I understand it he will not be going out with them again.

The Police are involved

  • On Monday the 10th of February Haringey MPS made a visit to me on behalf of the secretary of the St Ann's Labour Party and his partner.
  • It was alleged that I had called him filth on Twitter (which I have not, that was someone else) and that I said "I know I'm hassling you but...". I was served with a Notice of Harassment Letter which will now appear in extended CRB checks.

*An individual has asked that their name be replaced with their function in this post on the grounds that they are not seeking public office. This has been done.

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No, he's wrong. The problem is that not enough "real" people are getting involved in these seats and wards that always go the same way. I would point the finger at political parties and say that they're happy with this situation though. Some more of us should have joined and attended these meetings. I mean there was just ONE vote in this, out of 26.

By "real" people I mean people who were not involved in politics from their student days (where one could argue that they picked up some very undemocratic habits), not trade unionists or businessmen, just normal everyday people. We consider it nerdy and not cool and this is the result.

The system is fine, this is our fault.

Oh and by the way, this is ALL so true. As soon as I put something up here that's not true they jump on it and it gets taken down!

Just a little bit more on Ed Miliband's visit to Crouch End.

I'm told that Barbara Blake, Peter Morton and Ali Ozbek were among the throng who came to greet him. As was John Blake the St Ann's ward secretary.  So it could have been a really great opportunity for them to have brought Ed over to meet you.  He and all the other Labour members could have quietly gathered round, to listen and learn, as you set out the facts.

But never mind, when Ed Miliband eventually reads all about the rule-breaking and signing-up of voters who don't live in St Ann's and Harringay wards, he'll be able to put names to faces.

Is there some sort of local "Citizen Journalist" award we could nominate you for?  I'm sure Ed will be delighted to come back to Haringey and present it!

I had girded my loins to call out "What about St Ann's?" but there wasn't really an opportunity that was not me in a pit of snakes calling attention to my background as a rodent. That and I would have felt like I was spoiling a party and detracting from an important message.

Spectre at the feast

The Lib Dems have not come back to me about not running in St Ann's and allowing us to run three anti-corruption candidates. I suspect they are rubbing their hands with glee and are hoping that the three candidates currently selected are their opponents next May.

John- I could NEVER understand why the opposition of any party never made capital from the failings of the Labour party in St Anns Ward, but now I understand: the Labour party implode and are their own worst enemies. Where your enemy is over confident feed his ego.

I am trying to get hold of Brian Haley to comment on this as I think his view would be interesting. He was deselected (legitimately!) by the ward in 2009 and then joined the Liberal Democrats. He is on friendly terms with Charles Adje who voted for the current candidates. I would really appreciate an opposing view but online at least, there is silence.

But the Lib Dems are going to be wiped out due to their participation in the coalition with the equally cynical and lacking-in-vision Tories.

We are indeed in a very sticky "between the devil and the deep blue sea" situation. Lets hope there are indeed some credible and convincing indepedent candidates!

Not so fast! I thought that too but we're all sick of local politicians who seem to have their eye on national politics and that is one thing the libdems will not be doing. If they can convince the electorate that they are better custodians of the borough, notwithstanding their rather  abhorrent participation in the Tory Government, they stand a chance.

It is what I hear from someone who lives further west ( that they be washed out).
But I'd welcome fresh faces who can really change the political dynamic in this place. Labour has been too cynical and lacking in vision.
But I wouldn't want change for change's sake but people who can deliver change to the attitude in the council and DRASTIC improvement in delivery of public services.

I think you'll find Mark Alexander got 1200 votes in 2010 but Karen does well in Harringay too... nothing to do with having a Greek surname. Anyway, I think it was closer to 1000 and you will need all of those and a few more to displace the Labour hold on St Ann's.

If this lunch time I could draw people's attention to this measured comment from someone in the St Ann's Labour Party in case they missed it yesterday, click HERE.

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