Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
What if...they didn't put the speed bumps back
As you probably know. Warham has been one of the roads closed for resurfacing this week.
The quiet and carlessness has been a treat, made all the better as far as my three year is concerned by the diggers and lorries that make periodic trips up and down the road. .
Yesterday, my neighbour who has lived on Warham for 20 years came to the garden gate for a chat. He mentioned how since they put the speed bump outside his house, he has noticed the plaster cracking in his house and the increased noise of cars/lorries going over the bump. He fervently wished they would not put the bump back.
So what if they didn't put the bumps back. Would we miss them?
The quiet and carlessness has been a treat, made all the better as far as my three year is concerned by the diggers and lorries that make periodic trips up and down the road. .
Yesterday, my neighbour who has lived on Warham for 20 years came to the garden gate for a chat. He mentioned how since they put the speed bump outside his house, he has noticed the plaster cracking in his house and the increased noise of cars/lorries going over the bump. He fervently wished they would not put the bump back.
So what if they didn't put the bumps back. Would we miss them?
Tags for Forum Posts: Ladder traffic solutions, Wightman Road, speed humps
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Not necessarily John. If motorists want to head north on Wightman, a left-turn only out of Salisbury Road would encourage them to route via Harringay Road. And if this is done as part of the sort of scheme I've outlined above (and it should only be done as part of a wider Ladder scheme) you'd then get three roads sharing the burden that Warham now carries alone.
By the by, I suggested the three-up, three-down scheme to Cllr Brian Haley (as cabinet member responsible for traffic) a couple of years ago. He thought it was a good idea. Then I bumped into him in the Haringey parking office, asked him what progress and he told me he'd discussed it with a colleague (can't remember who). Apparently the colleague's reply was "What are we trying to do, make life easier for the motorist?" which Cllr Haley thought was a winning argument against the suggested scheme. I never understood the logic there, but at any rate it halted any further consideration of the idea.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Until the traffic from those three roads hits Wightman.
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Permalink Reply by Alison P on
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John: "What we need is less traffic."
Or what we need is different traffic? Isn't most of the problem with speed bumps to do with large lorries going over them? So have we exhausted all possible ways of reducing this? (I know John has devoted large chunks of his life to this very issue, but is there nothing more to be done given that they (when combined with speed humps) do most of the damage? I know some large vehicles need access to the ladder roads (eg rubbish lorries) but do any others? Could the entrances be narrowed to restrict access?
Just a thought..
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It might make sense as part of a wider change Russell, but experience seems to tell us you can't just make changes to a single road.
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Permalink Reply by Adam on
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I just want to add my support to Mr. Burdekin's well thought out and rational arguments.
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Permalink Reply by DavidJ on
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Sorry if I have missed something, but does anyone know whether we are going to get the bumps (or some alternative calming!) put back very soon? Walking up to NHP today I was really struck by how very dangerous the situation is at the moment - particularly for children walking to school. It was a real shock for me to have a van go past me at perhaps 50 mph as I was trying to cross at the passageway. I am used to much slower traffic and nearly totally misjudged it. I really worry that a child walking to school could get it horribly wrong.
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I was just about to post exactly the same thing. As David says, it comes as a real shock to realise that some eejit is approaching you at 40 mph. The inconsistency isn't ideal at all.
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Did you get the registration number of the van????
Honestly, it's no good getting on here, these people are doing more than DOUBLE the speed limit.
You can report these people here.
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Permalink Reply by Jess Whittingham on
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I think we should go with the chicanes, great idea!! It would make the ladder very pretty and slow us all down with damaging out cars - I'm sure my car has been damaged by going over speed bumps - yes maybe too fast, chicanes would definetly slow me down and be much nicer for all residents.
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Permalink Reply by dan burgess on
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chicanes, narrowing the road at the bumps to really slow things (and reduce plaster cracking in the home) and signs of human-ness - raised plant beds, signs created by the kids, paintings on the tarmac etc...
at the moment we have slick, one way, tarmac - makes people in their steel bubbles put their foot down.
let's make the roads feel like people live on them, that people are the dominant idea not cars.
not stopping cars from getting through, but lets make the car play by the rules of the people, slow, considered, concentrate. it's not rocket science and it doesn't have to cost a lot. And the lunacy of it all is that driving slowly down a residential street makes no difference at all to your overall journey when you factor in traffic lights and congestion etc, its all a myth.
The speed that vehicles are flying down some of the ladder roads at the moment is off the scale at times. Let's sort it out.
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Permalink Reply by Mr Growbag on
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I wonder how much it would cost to change the current speed humps on Ladder roads to sinusoidal ones? Knowing nothing about civil engineering this is all speculation, but if it's just a different shaped mound of tarmac, couldn't this be achieved by piling tarmac on either side of the existing humps and smoothing it into the new shape? Would that have an impact on the house-shaking effect of heavy vehicles?
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Permalink Reply by stuart grieve on
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Humps are necessary because before they were replaced quite a lot of cars were speeding. As for a two way system you need only remember the accidents that used to happen, certainly here on Beresford Road.
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