Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
One of last historic Harringay shop fronts disappearing soon
Chatting to one of the waiters in Hala restaurant the other night, I learned that the Gokyuzu restaurant is planning to expand into the long unoccupied Fords shop next door. One more historic shop front bites the dust:
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Permalink Reply by Ruth on
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Yes, all good thinking there. It's also the case that certain groups of people have 'their' buildings listed because of famous people who lived or were associated with them. The working classes, women, minorities etc often get left out. Like you said about council estates, it's often cus of the famous architect (usually male) rather than the residents who lived there, the ordinary people.
To start small scale would be good, to save/reclaim some shops and buildings and go from there. Living heritage is what we want, as with the Salisbury, and integrated heritage.
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Permalink Reply by HoL Site Admin on
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Cllr Nilgun Canver forwarded our Share email on this thread to Robin Payne, Head of Enforcement (robin.payne@haringey.go.uk / 020 8489 5513) and Marc Dorfman, Asst Director Regeneration & Planning (marc.dorfman@haringey.go.uk / 0208 489 5538) and copied us in:
Dear Robin, Pls. see the link. Pls. get it investigated and take the necessary action (if any).
Marc, as discussed previously, pls. advise how we can regenerate Grand Parade/Green Lanes. This matter is in the next 5 year plans of the GLSG.
Many thanks,
Cllr. Canver
We'll let you know of any outcome................... (if any).
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This is great that Cllr. Canver has got involved and is helping to find solutions and way ahead. I'm glad I voted for her!
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Permalink Reply by Zena Brabazon on
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I’m really pleased that Michael noticed the improvements to the building frontages and shop fronts in High Road, Tottenham.
I worked with a team on these heritage projects, and we had a vision of what these would look like when renovated with unified designs. The Heritage Lottery Fund gave £1m and this was matched to many other funding streams. We were also inspired by an earlier project led by English Heritage in Woodgrange Road in Newham.
Our team was keen to have a similar project for Green Lanes and we approached English Heritage. But their view at the time was that Green Lanes was not as historic as High Road Tottenham which has some amazing Georgian buildings including Number 810 which is Grade 2* Listed. English Heritage was sympathetic but had limited funds and had to prioritise.
Now I’m elected, I hope the Council can work with residents and see if there’s external funding for a similar scheme. Though even if we could find funds such schemes are incredibly difficult to realise. For example, they work best and have the biggest impact when done in groups of buildings. This means negotiating with each and every property owner – who has to sign-up and contribute money.
Cllr for St Ann’s Ward
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Delighted to read this Zena. A big hurrah for you. If community backing helps, there seems to be some support.
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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Great stuff, Zena. If you need some residents to step up and do anything, I'm happy to do that. Andy Newman of the Gardens Resident Association, I'm sure, would also be keen to be involved. He's a big supporter of GL restoration and regeneration.
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Permalink Reply by Karen Alexander on
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As promised I have followed this up with the council and I am disappointed to learn that what Liz initially said about English Heritage and similar is true, Green Lanes isn't a conservation area and wouldn't fall into any category for this type of funding. Its good to see that all councillors on both sides of Green Lanes (and the political spectrum) are keen to make progress on this and I think the initial way forward is for discussion at the Green Lanes Strategy Group and then try to find other funding streams to push things forward since this is in the Green Lanes 5 year plan. David, Chris and I will continue to work on this.
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Thank you to our councillors for getting involved and for wanting to further this idea in some way or another. What constitutes a conservation area is very debateable indeed and restrictive but we have to work with the reality that at present Green Lanes is not considered so. Perhaps at some point a case could be made. All those lovely old photos of Green Lanes in the past being put together and some form of narrative to go with them might be useful in some small way.
Plus we have people power here on HoL. And maybe the local media might want to be involved in some way? they are always on the hunt for good local stories. History is not just about the past but how it affects the present!
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Permalink Reply by Jo Foster on
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TODAY:
Green Lanes Harringay history walk
Sunday 30 May 2010, 10.30am
Walk Leader: John Hinshelwood, local historian and Harringay resident
Green Lanes, Harringay, became a major North London shopping parade when it was developed at the end of the nineteenth century. The walk will start at the oldest pub, the Beaconsfield Hotel, and make its way to the most celebrated pub, the Grade II listed Salisbury Hotel, and then back again. On the way the Harringay Gardens will be explored, and the Harringay Ladder and Passage visited.
Meet at the Beaconsfield Hotel, Green Lanes, N22 7AY (opposite Arena Retail Park). Nearest tube station Manor House. Buses 141, 341 or 29 to Endymion Road.
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