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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Next week the  corporate committee of Haringey Council will make a decision on the Blackboy Lane issue.

According to the report prepared for the committee, the majority of Blackboy Lane residents would prefer no change, However, the report states that this option has been dismissed.

It also says that the option to consider another name is dismissed  - not because it's the right thing to do but simply because that wasn't what they said last time!

Below are the results of the second consultation along with the report's somewhat tortuous justification for dismissing the wishes of Blackboy Lane residents.

Of course, those of you who have been following this issue will have little faith in these consultation results. You will have leaned that the Council may have sought to swing the result the way it wanted by approaching select groups through the local Labour Party apparatus and asking them to reply to the consultation to support the name change.

So, there you go, no surprises here: that's how politics is done in Haringey these days.

For the record the author of this post has no objection to street renaming where the existing name clearly causes offence and where widespread support for the change can be proved.

Full text of the Blackboy Lane item in the Council report  available here.

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..and continuing the logic, only one third of 1% of all households* in Haringey support the change.

Surely this is the sort of permanent change that a two-thirds majority was made for, not a figure of one third of one percent in favour.

*2100 census has 114,000 households in Haringey, I've uprated this to 120,000 - probably still an under-estimate.

It's quite incredible. It really is.

 Ejiofor must be disappointed. Having presided over such a flawed and manipulated process having spent all that money, having appealed to haringey Labour Party members to bail him out he still only managed 480 votes (how many Labour members were contacted??) and from a borough wide population of 255000,

He's loosing his Edge. (Sorry for the pun) 

I wonder if he'll show up for the great name unveiling? Or simply triumphant banner headline in haringey people. 

It must just be me, but is there a touch of Orwell about this administration 

JJ B - Like members of HoL, the members of the Corporate Committee have only just received the Report and no public discussion and decision on it has yet taken place.

True, the officers' Report recommends that councillors on the Committee "dismiss" the local residents' views. But in my personal view as a former councillor for sixteen years, that wording is, let's be generous, and say unfortunate. The committee members are making a decision after a Statutory Consultation. However deeply flawed the process I'd still expect that all members of the Corporate Services Committee would treat the views of residents affected with respect and an open mind.

I'd hope the same applies to all three of the St Ann's ward councillors.

I do get your point JJ B.  I'd guess that neither of us have much time for councillors who think the Party whip and their own ambition requires them to be sock puppets.

I very much hope that your expectations for the fair-mindedness of the Corporate Services Committee will be justified.

In my little neck of Bruce Grove ward they disregarded the expressed opinions of those  residents who took the time to respond to the CPZ consultation and just integrated our CPZ into the wider BG North CPZ which will penalise us on event days. Most expressed opinions were not in favour of this move. Their interpretations of the consultation stats were different.

They do what they want to do!

When we had our CPZ consultation, more then half the street (basically my end) voted No. the council just cut the street in half. Needless to say, after the signs when up everyone who voted for the CPZ were parking Outside my house because they didn't want to pay. It didn't take long before I voted for it as well. 

It all just sucks really, you can engineer what ever you want when you have the reigns in your hand. 

Anyone but Labour

This is terrible. And Ejiofor and his committee's justification for this change so awful.

We shouldn't just change something because a number of people *feel* it is true - it has to BE true. Their argument is unproven at best.

The Committee meets in three days time - on 17 March.

You can watch the meeting online (you need to download the MS Teams app in advance). The link to the meeting is on the front sheet of the agenda (click the word “Here” in blue)

https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/documents/g9723/Agenda%20fronts...

I might watch that. 

I Suspect it'll be turgid but you never know.

It might be interesting to see where the councillors stand.

It seems truth can be whatever we choose it to be.  We've all heard Meghan Markle's truth.  Once it was known as contention. 

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