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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Our street - Umfreville - has been vandalised for the second time last night. Plants and shrubs torn apart and scattered in the road, car windscreen wiper snapped. a wall damaged. A few weeks ago someone (probably the same person) snapped off several of our new street trees, which we fundraised for last year. A bit heartbreaking and also scary.

I'm wondering if any other streets have seen this pattern of damage or if we are uniquely targetted - I'm assuming that some kind of drug house has opened up again locally, as there have also been several cases of people collapsed in the street or wandering delirious on Green Lanes.

We keep reporting things to the police, but so far nobody has actually responded or been round to see what is happening.

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Maybe residents can check their RING doorbells, if they overlook the vandalised area and pinpoint a culprit 

Branches of young trees have been broken off in Rutland Gardens

What a shame. There must be some doorbell camera footage. Have the police been involved?

Unfortunately respect for peoples property has become non existent by the youth of today .

Stricter punishment is needed , house arrest and make parents more responsible for their children's actions , also community service has to be enforced plus the legal age for young offenders should be lowered to 14 .

Sorry 

Sorry but how do you know it was a young person doing this?.

The youth of yesterday: perfect. There was no crime at all, in fact, before this generation of youth appeared. Thanks for reminding us, John. Crime is an entirely new phenomenon in London, spawned by the hundred or so under 18 year olds who live on, or near the Ladder. We should lock all under 18s up, I think, as a precaution. The little monsters. And it's a mystery why a young person (or old person) might turn to vandalism when they have so much to do, funded so excellently by the state. The luckiest generation ever. 

I grew up in Harringay in the wake of WW2.  We had nothing.  Mums cut holes in the toes of sandals for growing feet to wear.  The greengrocer did a good trade; vegetables were cheap and plentiful.  To suggest any of us in our wildest dreams would do what is described here would be beyond our comprehension.  I mean we wouldn't have thought of it, let alone wanted to do it.  So there was no crime.  We were absorbed in school work, making friends, maybe splashing out on a film at the Coliseum or a pop concert at the Finsbury Park Empire, while our parents grumbled at our extravagance, waiting for the day we were old enough to work for a living or marry and leave home.  There was no state funding and that is perhaps the answer you are looking for.

They sure were the  best of times Geraldine , neighbors kept an eye out for any wrong doings , and as you say there were no handouts , and no illegal migrants to roam the streets at free will .

Ah. There it is. Of course. I would ask you to read Times journalist Fraser Nelson's substack on crime trends, which he has written in response to Farage's constant 'Broken Britain' narrative, especially the bit about immigrants. In short, Farage is completely incorrect, and immigrants are not responsible for any rise in crime, which is broadly down everywhere. Farage uses fear and lies to influence the credulous. But I can't imagine that facts and whatnot will influence your, ahem, entrenched ideas. https://frasernelson.substack.com/p/lawless-britain-an-update

Its not immigrants , its ILLEGAL MIGRANTS , Ah ,There it is Rory

Yes. Things would obviously be much better if there was no state funding for anything.

It only stands to reason. 

They could start by getting rid of the state pension, I reckon.

Bring back the birch I say, John.

That and military service.

Hanging's too good for them. eh. 

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