Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
TFL scores Harringay's connectivity as amongst best in North London
Extract from PTAL map showing Harringay where red equates to central London connectedness levels
Tipped off by a recent Jim Waterson/London Centric's post, I spent a few minutes exploring TFL's PTAL scoring map (Public Transport Access Levels ). Used mainly for assessing appropriate housing densities in planning, it also offers an interesting insight for non-professionals, if used with care.
I say 'if used with care' because in some respects it's a rather crude tool. It scores the public transport connectedness of every location in London depending on walking time to the nearest public transport node, frequency and speed of service.
Extract from full PTAL map with Harringay circled in red.
Most of central London is 5 (shaded red). As you travel outwards the scores descend down to the lilacs of 1 and cross-hatching of 0. Harringay ranges from 5 to 2. Fair enough as far as it goes, but is still offers some odd results. For example, just above the Passage on Hewitt Road, you're in PTAL 2 territory: walk 2 minutes down the hill to number 130 and suddenly you're in PTAL 5. And again the bottom part of Allison Road is in PTAL 4, whereas the same part of Hewitt Road, equally near to the bus stop outside Salisbury Promenade is PTAL 3.
So, a useful tool, but I think it needs reading with some finesse. It also reminds us that despite the through-traffic drawbacks of Harringay, we live in a very well connected neck of the woods as far as public transport in concerned.
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter
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THANKS for this Hugh.
It images show particularly the density of bus-stops.
Is not one implication, that this infrastructure could be used much more effectively and efficiently … if the density of traffic other than buses could be thinned down?
And also that—between TfL and Haringey's half-baked, hide-bound Highwaymen—the authorities are unwilling to grasp this nettle?
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Permalink Reply by neil
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Agreed! It's mighty strange the GL is not will not have another bus lane, anything at all to unjam the buses.
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Crossrail 2 is not ruled out. I wonder if this kind of analysis shifts a station to Wood Green rather than Turnpike Lane ?
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A previous council CEO pushed hard for an X-Rail 2 station at Wood Green. This was never in TFL's plans for any number of good reasons.
TFL humoured Haringey Council, but it did waste a lot of time, as do so many of this council's half-baked, grandiose ideas. The HDV comes to mind (which also wasted a great deal of money, as well as time).
If X-Rail 2 goes ahead, then it should go via Turnpike Lane, which is what the public consultation clearly showed. Haringey needs good leadership.
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And illustrates quite effectively how relatively poorly connected the new North Gate development is…
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Permalink Reply by Dan77
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Realise it's a complicated issue but should they have built the Green Lanes stop on the Piccadilly Line? The trams are long gone, the buses are slower than walking ...
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Permalink Reply by Sarah
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In theory connectivity is great, as long as you don't need to get anywhere at a particular time and don't mind a long wait for a bus. I tried to get to Wood Green from Philip Lane the other night, first of all the bus stops were all closed on Philip Lane, then the countdown at the bus stop on WGR bore no relation to reality. It appeared no 230 was coming for the next 13 minutes, so I gave up and crossed the road, only to see a 230 go past... I crossed back over and waited again, then gave up again and the same thing happened. There was no point by then anyway as I would have been too late. RIP my social life.
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Perhaps this will improve things a bit - but what we really need is bus lanes without cars parked in them!
https://haringey.gov.uk/news/20251118/buses-get-ps10m-boost-haringey
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1000% and double that! But it's been ruled out. So folks will have to endure 30 mins from manor house to Turnpike lane on a Friday evening because people just have to stop at Yashar Halim during the rush hour.
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