Red Light Jumpers

Comment by John McMullan on April 23, 2009 at 14:37

I can also honestly say there were about four sequences of video where no-one jumped the lights – only four mind, but the nature of the video was to prove to some, “head in sand” folk that this occurs far more than the “17% statistic”

Nuff said, you manipulated the data to backup your position.

I'm pretty relaxed about going the wrong way down a one way street, I guess that makes me a cherry picker.

Comment by Birdy_Too on April 23, 2009 at 15:09

Not really John that’s the point of the video, to show people going through the lights not stopping at them, call me an old stick in the mud but I would like the title of the video to reflect the content. If I bough a football video titled “Top Goals of the Season” and there weren’t any just shots wide, I’d be cheesed off. Mind you I think Port Vale will struggle to release a video like that this season, I digress.

This is a small snapshot of two journeys in different weeks. People can draw their own conclusions and people have. I was proving a point, one which was soooooo easy to do as it proves this is commonplace all over London.

Comment by John McMullan on April 23, 2009 at 15:29

How the hell can you attack the 17% statistic with one sided bias like that!?

I know it happens, I witness it too and I think that 17% (mentally I think a little less than 20) is about right.

Comment by Birdy_Too on April 23, 2009 at 15:45

Life is full of manipulation in opinions, news, websites – even this osite and your good self have been known to twist a bit : )

I omitted four clips and have twenty one “jumping” clips, if you think that scale of editing is manipulating the truth to fit my argument, then I disagree.

My real life experiences of people jumping the lights is far greater than 17%, believe what you wish, I trust my eyesight. Now get thee down the boozer tonight for the first prize of a bottle of Manns Pale Ale and we can continue manipulating in real life!

Comment by Danzigger on April 23, 2009 at 16:27

Lots of bike riders jump red lights. It's against the law, but how much time/money/effort would you like the authorities to spend policing it?
I'm well comfortable with cyclists getting fined fined for jumping lights, but I want car drivers to be hammered for speeding, changing lanes without indicating, using their horn inapropiriately, driving whilst on the phone

Comment by Birdy_Too on April 23, 2009 at 16:39

Completely agree DZ and who knows could be my next video : )

Comment by John McMullan on April 23, 2009 at 16:42

In the City of London they are "policing" it with ferocity.

Comment by Alison P on April 23, 2009 at 20:57

Wish they'd police it in Islington. My journey much like Birdy's. Drives me nuts (I'm a cyclist). One of my main objections is how the hell you teach kids what a red light means.

Comment by StephenBln on April 23, 2009 at 21:16

Alison P wrote: One of my main objections is how the hell you teach kids what a red light means.

Which brings us nicely back to here and the importance of such a facility...

Comment by John McMullan on April 24, 2009 at 8:46

I'm sticking to my less than 20%. I think it's perception.

Anyway, why on earth are we demonising cyclists? The way I heard a police cyclist on Tuesday talking to a bloke about to run a red light on Bishopsgate blew me away. If I am busted on the M4 in my BMW doing 100mph I am treated like a gentleman. Cyclists busted for running red lights and going the wrong way up one way streets are treated like the arse end of society by the police.

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