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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

1: The Old sluice House at the junction of Nightingale Lane and Priory Road, with a wayfinder Board for the Nightingale Inn (I first used this phot in my article about The Elms, a house which was on the other corner. 

2. The front of The Nightingale.

3. The Nightingale was famous for its garden where quoits was a favourite game. The back of the building shown in Fig. 1 is the taller of the two buildings in this photo. You can just see the frieze running round the top of the building in all of Fig.s 2, 3 and 4.

4. Another view of the front of The Nightingale, showing its name sign. This image shows all the hallmarks of photographer Alfred Braddock, who liked to have groups of people his images, whether he posed them as he was taking the photo, or pasted them in as he was processing it. His photo-editing mastery was probably a lot less obvious in 1890!

5. An 1881 painting by Harold Lawes. The Nightingale is far right. I'm not sure about the identity of the building in the background. I wonderd if it was one of the Houses on Boyton Road.

6. Finally another of a group of people gathered outside the building.

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Comment by Richard Woods on June 23, 2023 at 13:21

Any chance you can place the location on a current map? 

Comment by Hugh on June 23, 2023 at 13:44

Comment by Ken Stevens on June 23, 2023 at 18:44

7. Had wondered about this one, vaguely recalled as lurking in the files somewhere!

Comment by Hugh on June 23, 2023 at 20:04

Thanks, K. Yes, I think we've discussed this one elsewhere. Thanks for adding it. I must have it misfiled somewhere. Do I remember right that this is a Braddock? It has his Victorian photoshop feel to it.

The New River did run very nearby, but I'm not sure exactly where in relation to the pub. The Moselle also ran nearby. Perhaps this photographer was seeking to re-create the days when, I think the Moselle did run roughly where it is located in the 'photograph'.

If you look at the two maps below (click to enlrage), the one on the left is the 1807 Ordnance Survey Drawing; the one on the right is the 1863–69 Ordnance Survey Map. You can get the rough location of the inn from the later map. Looking then at the earlier map, it does look like the Moselle, which I assume is indicated by the squiggly blue coloured line, did run quite near to where the tavern was soon to be built.

What surprised me comparing these two maps, was the location of the Moselle in the later map. It looks very much like it's been shifted east, so as to run through the garden of the Rectory. I can find no record of that having happened, but either the 1807 map was wrong, or they did indeed divert the brook to satisfy the whim of the rector.

Comment by Ken Stevens on June 23, 2023 at 20:22

I would want it to to be on the westward side (per lefthand old map) so that I could claim to have lived on the banks of The Moselle, in Linzee Road!.

The later map suggests the adjacent river is the New River - but wouldn't it have been neeater, as a recent new dig!

More likely a bit of Braddockisation. 

Comment by Hugh on June 23, 2023 at 20:43

Cartographically, i think the tavern may have been located at around the point the Moselle and the New River cross. If you look at the 1893 snippet in my earlier reply to Richard, you'll be reminded that Brook Road ran due east just near the pub. Might that be marking the former course of the Moselle Brook? If so, it would have placed it very near to the tavern.

Comment by Richard Woods on June 24, 2023 at 15:00

You make that earlier Rector sound a bit like the much lamented Sam Kemble. I would not have put it past him. He used to shock the locals at the pub when they (politely!) challenged him "Just because you won't come to my house is no reason for me not to visit yours..." Lovely man. 

Comment by Hugh on July 20, 2023 at 16:55

I've added one last picture, at the bottom of the original post. It's big enough to be worth clicking on opening up.  I wonder if these seven images represent the full catalogue of Nightingale pictures - probably not!

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