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Beating the Bounds 1893 (1) - Outside The Beaconsfield, Harringay

This group were beating the bounds of Tottenham.

Beating the bounds is an ancient tradition that goes back into the mists of time. It involves residents walking a parish's boundaries to share the knowledge of where they lay and to lay claim to their area.

Knowing the boundaries of the parish was crucial to a community’s identity and the residents’ responsibilities. On the evening of Ascension Day, a group from every parish and various governing bodies in England would walk around the parameters of their land. Each boundary post would be beaten to mark it out in the minds of the younger generations and the clergy would pray for the land along the way.

Here's a snippet of a text I found relating the story of one bounds beating, closer to the City in the year 1857:

My own experience in this way is but small, having officiated but on one occasion. What took place then, I shall relate for the satisfaction of the curious. I have been a shopkeeper in the City for more than twenty years, and am considered to do a good stroke of business. When I was chosen select vestry-man last year, I cannot say I was very much surprised. I was not sorry either perhaps I felt a little flattered.

At any rate, I did not refuse the office, which in our parish is, to say the worst of it, at least as convivial as it is burdensome. We dispense a good deal of charity one way and another ; and if we make merry after it now and then, nobody is the worse for that - not ourselves, I'm sure, whatever cross-grained folks may think about it.

A few weeks ago. I received an intimation that my attendance at the parish church, where I was to join the procession to traverse the bounds, would be expected on a certain day, at an hour specified.... I met my colleagues at the vestry at the hour appointed.....and when all were prepared to set forth, I found myself at the head of the column, armed with a bunch of flowers as big almost as the head of an ox, and with a companion furnished in a similar manner on each side of me. It wanted an hour of noon when we sallied forth down the street.

Our way lay through various streets, lanes, courts, and alleys, and along the bank of the river. I cannot say that I traversed the whole limits of the parish myself, but I can certify the boys did. At all the recognised boundaries, they set up a jovial shout, and battered away at the iron landmarks with their willow-wands. In some places, they had to climb ladders; in others, to dive into cellars now their yellow breeches and blue stockings were seen cascading through an open window now the whole school marched bodily into a tailor's shop, and began jumping and poking with their sticks at the ceiling then they would knock at the door of a private dwelling, and the moment it was opened, rush down to the cellar in search of the rusty plate, emerging again with three cheers, in token that all was as it should be.

In this way, we spent, I should say, something like four hours, without exciting much attention from the public, who, in London city, have a rather characteristic habit of attending to their own business, and leaving other people to follow theirs. Here and there we attracted some observation, anti our yellow-legged regiment picked up a few recruits of their own age and standing, who seemed to desire nothing better than to share in the frolic of the procession. When we had completed the survey of the boundaries, and ascertained that the parish stood in the same place it did on that day twelve-[-114-]month - none of the cast-iron tablets having disappeared from their positions - our business was concluded. What followed, I do not consider myself bound to state categorically.

(The Little World of London, by Charles Manby Smith, 1857)

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Comment by Justin Guest on January 21, 2019 at 10:22

That's great Hugh, really enjoyed that. I was taken by this snippet towards the end...

"In this way, we spent, I should say, something like four hours, without exciting much attention from the public, who, in London city, have a rather characteristic habit of attending to their own business, and leaving other people to follow theirs."

Seems not much has changed in London... When I first came to London and was my normal chirpy northern chappie my now wife told me off, 'Shhh! Tthey will think there is something wrong with you!'.

Comment by Dick Harris on February 12, 2019 at 3:21

I wonder whether it was a parish boundary they beating and, if so which parish. The boundary between the Tottenham and Hornsey boroughs passed close to the Beaconsfield and boundary markers can be seen still on both sides of Seymour Road. They are little cast iron plates marked HBC right by the boundary crossing the footway. Paving slabs for Tottenham and tarmac for Hornsey. This boundary disappeared legally in 1965 but is still with us.

Comment by Hugh on February 13, 2019 at 3:28

Yes, it was Tottenham boundary. 

Comment by John McMullan on March 3, 2019 at 10:15

Postal code gangs.

Comment by Hugh on March 28, 2019 at 12:16

Re the question about a map for markers, Gardens resident Karen has sent me the following:

Metadyne's interactive map is great for the surviving markers (see bottom of http://www.metadyne.co.uk/Parishboundaries.html or this link will hopefully give you a full page version centred on Harringay: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1kPjdFrRy-u16fXrXgMuY1Lqg9...

Comment by Konrad B on March 28, 2019 at 16:23

John D - "The town ( Borough ? ) of Hawick keep up the tradition of riding the boundaries to make sure that the Scots have not invaded and taken over the disputed land."

Hawick is in Scotland, so the sentence should read "The town ( Borough ? ) of Hawick keep up the tradition of riding the boundaries to make sure that the English have not invaded and taken over the disputed land."

Comment by Hugh on March 1, 2021 at 10:50

Re the Hornsey boundary markers, I've finally found an apparently perviously undiscovered list of their locations at Bruce Castle. (See my recent comment here).

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