arking fee to £46,700 pounds for you, Hugh, yours being the only car left of course to fund the traffic management scheme at Sainsburys...............…
rms - stand-alone bicycle; bicycle with front-attached kid trailer; jogging stroller; and traditional stroller.
The options include the TrioBike, Zigo Leader and a number of options from Fietsfabriek
Zigo
Triobike
Fietsfabrik…
ght's Hornsey Depot consultation.
Rather than go over it all I advise you to read my previous notes sent to you on this.
What follows is a clarification and update. They offered further information than my last set of notes sent to you. They are:
That the site was 28% owned by Sainsbury’s and 72% owned by Haringey and St James were the developers.
That major decisions would be made by Haringey like: Traffic flow, parking, and numbers of units and to only provide 40% of the car parking requirements for the residential units. The proportions of the mixed use etc.
The frontage of the whole development on the high street would be where the old Baths frontage is now. This would be demolished and a 3 lane exit road and the frontage for the Sainsbury’s Café would replace it. The café would be 3.5 1000 sq ft.
After a presentation from the commissioned Architects, we were asked to work in small groups to discuss 3 main questions.
Vitality of the High Street and local community- what can Sainsbury’s do to integrate the development into the High Street and community?
Traffic and Parking- they want an understanding of traffic generally so they can respond to it.
Permeability and pedestrian access- providing open, easy safe access for pedestrians what’s our requirements?
This was followed by a quick feedback session. Most of the people were residents (and I think only I was from the trade association.)
Some of the points discussed at the end of the workshop were.
Lack of infrastructure to go with the extra housing We discussed the impact of extra housing on health / education services etc. (re New River debacle: Items such as the river walk planting, the infrastructure promises,doctors, schools etc.): grants to the local community groups. As well as promises of good social housing with good planting in and around the community housing,L which did not occur last time) and more trees and open space for the public and not just the private residents.
The effect on existing businesses- including what will be in the new store with Sainsbury’s confirmed: a café and a bakery. We suggested that some other commercial outlet (currently not trading in the high street) should be the face of Sainsbury’s on the High St.
We all agreed that the scheme should try and retain the existing Baths facia on the High Street- if not then some of it and what is replacing it should fit in with the traditional shop fronts
Opening hours & delivery arrangements- Confirmed as 8 to 11 every day except Sunday 10-4pm
Environmental improvements in and around the main approach road and car park
To make pedestrian access from and to the High Street safe, easy, attractive and tree lined.
Signage including community/public notice boards, to keep these in line with the historical signage of Hornsey High Street as much as possible.
That the development should increase the convenience of and the footfall on the High Street.
Make parking available to users of the High Street even if not using the supermarket. Sainsbury’s confirmed that they envisage 90mins free parking
That St James/ Sainsbury’s should consider giving grants for community events, including special festivals, like carnival, Christmas lights/tree and plants/hanging baskets.
The two most important issues to those gathered were:
Traffic generated and or Parking
The suggested height of the private residential units.
Traffic generated and or Parking:
Here many agreed that the council should provide more parking as the whole issue of parking since the introduction of the South Hornsey High St CPZ(SHHSCPZ) had made most of the roads north of the High Street a nightmare to park. I lived the furthest away in Linzee and I agreed with this.
We pointed out the Traffic hotspots on the HS and discussed the possible opening of Cross Lane. We suggested that the whole issue of traffic flow and parking North of the HS needs more thought as what they do on their adjacent roads affects all those roads off Nightingale Lane and should be considered as a whole avoiding setting up rat runs and dangerous out points on to the HS.
Amongst their suggestions were that the 60% of residential units (possibly 240 cars without parking spaces, can be made into on street CPZ parking around the area north of the HS. The people that live on roads currently affected by the SHHS CPZ were split 50/50 on the expansion of the CPZ north of the HS.
The suggested height of the private residential units:
After a long discussion we agreed that 10 stories was too high for the position of this development in HHS.
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e folkies of Stokie have summoned up the dead to protest against a new Sainsbury's in Stoke Newington.
The plans involve a 2,200 square metre shop at Wilmer Place, at the junction of Stoke Newington Church Street and the High Street, as well as 44 new flats and 94 underground parking spaces.
The proposed site is right next to Abney Park Cemetry. So hundreds of protestors dressed as zombies took to the streets of Stoke Newington on recently to register their objections to Sainsbury’s plans.
Whilst a nearby Sainsbury's might mean some traffic relief for us in Harringay, can we really wish this upon them?
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ic chaos is more than likely down to redesigning the carpark layout so that traffic 'in' & 'out' now use the same opening into the car park. They are now looking to bring back the old design which would see 'in' & 'out' separated. People exiting would do so where the W5 bus stop is now or near to it.…
same item rather than a different item from the same company whereas at other times, it can be two different items. These are never very clear and another misleading way for Sainsburys to make money. I'm starting to do less shopping there now and using Iceland and the fruit/veg stores on Green Lanes for just these sorts of reasons, not to mention the chaotic parking and traffic situation at Sainsburys.…
nd surveing people who are stuck in traffic anyway should be an easy thing... asking things like:
*Where people come from
*Have they shopped here before Sainsbury's started tat selling
*How many times a week they shop there and
*Is it different on other days of the week
Another useful bit of information would be:
Did the traffic light timing has changed at the time of the reopening of Sainsbury's? I should imagine Haringey highway department should be able to provide an answer to that.
I wonder if Haringey would bother finding out any of the above, or just do what they do best - not a lot and then come up with another plan which would probably make things worse
I would love to proven wrong on this one though...…