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The Development Policies contained in this document can be used to support or obstruct planning decisions like the huge block of flats currently proposed for Hampden Road. My comments last week on this post show how important this document can be.
Here is the draft Local Plan and here is the consultation document on the development management policies. None of it is a particular joy to read, but if you plan to be around in the borough for a while, be warned anything contained in this document WILL influence your neighbourhood and borough growing into the place you hope or one one that you fear. Ignore it at your peril.
There's also another related key consultation doing the rounds at the moment. The Site Allocations Development Plan. The Council explains this plan with the following:
This document will set out the location, scale and timeframes for the key sites that will shape the borough over the next 15-20 years.
At this stage the council is welcoming the submission of sites that interested parties believe have the potential to make a positive contribution to the future of the borough. These may include (but are not limited to):
Sites able to make a contribution to the borough’s housing stock
Sites able to accommodate jobs and benefit Haringey’s local economy
Sites needed to provide the infrastructure required to accommodate growth in the borough
Sites with the potential to enhance the shopping, recreation, leisure and amenity of the borough and its local areas
You can see the Site Allocation Development plan here.
The consultation runs until 10 May 2013. Find out how to comment here.
You can attend one of the following sessions where staff will be on-hand to answer any questions:
Wood Green Central Library, 187-197A High Road, Wood Green, N22 6XD
Wednesday 24 April, 4pm to 7pm
If you want to get under the skin of it all with some like minds, the Haringey Federation of Residents' Associations is holding a special meeting on Wednesday Ist May, 6pm-7pm at the Civic Centre, High Rd N22.
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l too. I am hopeful that she has just got confused and wandered off somewhere. If you live in the north end of the ladder, or Wightman Road, I would be very grateful if you could look in your garden for her. I live in Raleigh Road, so particularly Sydney Road, Hampden Road, Lausanne Road, maybe even Frobisher Road. Details are here:
LOST CAT! (Updated Friday Feb 11th)
Ilsa, our much loved cat, has gone missing (she hasn’t been seen since Wednesday 9th February - she usually goes out for max 30mins). Please please could you have a look in your back garden for her.
She has a purple collar with our phone number on it (or call Joe on 07837 600 553). She is a little overweight and has a bald patch on her stomach. She has brown fur with a darker brown face and paws (she is a kind of Siamese cross).
We live on the south side of Raleigh Road, around where the A is here. She went out into our back garden and hasn’t come back. So, in particular if you live on the ground floor with gardens backing onto the area shown here, please could you have a look and keep an eye out. Thank you so much.
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Added by Joe Deville at 11:28 on February 10, 2011
rn in Tavistock in 1844. By 1851 the family was living on Ford Street. His father William was a copper miner. His mother Elizabeth wasn't working, He had sisters Anna, Emelia, Elizabeth and brothers James E & Richard.
By 1861, the family were in Well Street. William had started working as a copper miner.
William Henry's wife to be, Mary Grace Hellier, was also born in Tavistock in 1845. In 1851, her family were living in Barley Market Street. Her father Richard was a painter and glazier. Her mother Mary Ann wasn't working.
By 1861 Richard had died and Mary Grace was helping her mother run a newsagent in Exeter Street.
By 1871 the pleasures of newsagenting and mining had clearly worn thin. William Henry and Mary Grace had both moved to London and were married with their first child, Elizabeth, aged 3. They were living at 3 Millfield Place, Green Lanes Stoke Newington. William Henry is described as a Joiner / Carpenter. Mary Grace as a Joiner and, I assume as something of a joke, their 3 year old daughter was described as a Young Joiner.
By 1881, they were at 2 Monsell Villas, Monsell Road, Highbury.William Henry is described as a Master Carpenter employing 1 man and 1 boy.
Snippet below from 1886 electoral register - probably showing our two Davis's
By 1891 the couple had arrived in Harringay. They were living at 1 Hampden Road. William was described a Builder & Grocer. His oldest daughter Elizabeth Grace, now 23 was a Grocer's Assistant. Her brothers and sisters were William, 19, Blanche 12 and John 10.
Two years earlier, the family had made the papers:
Hampstead & Highgate Express - Saturday 11 May 1889
A family Affair - William Henry Davis, builder, of Hampden-road, Hornsey, was summoned for having used abusive and insulting language towards Eliza T. Stanbury and Ellen Stanbury in a public thoroughfare, viz., at Hampden-road, Hornsey, whereby a breach of the peace might have been occasioned.
Mr. Roberts, solicitor, appeared for the defendant, and Mr. Hickman, solicitor, for the complainants. Mr. Hickman said the defendant was, a builder. and the complainants, his nieces,. who. resided at Wandsworth, occasionally went to visit another uncle, the defendant's brother and partner. On Oct. 27th they were at Hornsey on a visit, and defendant called them "filthy beasts," and used towards them other language of a more vile and disgusting nature. The offence was repeated in April; and application was then made for a summons, but, owing to a technicality, the former offence had to be made the ground of complaint. Although defendant's language had been so disgusting and uncalled for, and although he had expressed his intention to insult his nieces whenever and wherever he pleased, it was a family affair, and he (Mr. Hickman) had advised his clients, to withdraw the summonses on condition that the defendant would express his regret for what he had done, and engage not to molest them on any future occasion.
Mr. Roberts said the offence was not admitted, bat his client would consent to make the suggested apology and promise for the sake of peace.
The defendant then apologised and made a promise not to molest his nieces in the future, and the Bench consented to the withdrawal of the summonses, the chairman remarking that the solicitors had displayed great judgment in agreeing to such an arrangement.
By 1896, the family had moved in to 1 Hewitt Road, newly built by William Henry, where they lived until 1907. Joe has a record of other properties William Henry built. There is no readily available public record of William Henry's death, but Joe's papers show him dying in 1908.
The 1901 census records William Henry, Mary Grace, and daughters Edith and Blanche at 5 Cliff Town Parade Prittlewell, Southend. It looks like they had the top half of the house. Since they were still recorded at 1 Hewitt, I suspect that this seafront house was a rented or owned holiday home. The building is now the Gleneagles Guests House. Pictures on the guest house website show what great views they would have had. By this time, William Henry is described as a retired builder.
Joe, anything you can add to this would be great.…
otice and that trees removed will be replaced. If you have any concerns about individual trees you can contact Clare Carter, details below
[O/S means outside the number given, OPP means opposite, on the other side of the road.]
Please find attached the tree works programme for the ladder roads. Works are to commence Aug 4th and will take approx 1mth
The following are the reasons for the removals:
Lothair Road Nth
1. OPP 81 Acer sp. Damage caused to an adjacent property by the tree
2. OPP 67 Acer sp. Unsuitable specie for the location, extensive root systems and the roots continue to disrupt the highway
Umfreville Road
1. OPP 1 Prunus sp. The lean contravenes the Highways Act and public access is restricted
2. O/S 74 Crataegus sp. The tree is ½ dead
3. O/S 1 Purple leaf plum. The trees is ½ dead
Cavendish Road
1. O/S 1 Purple leaf plum. Ganoderma fungus at base (if tree is left could deem the tree unsafe)
2. O/S 7. Purple leaf plum. Tree is ¾ dead
3. O/S 11. Tree is dead
Duckett Road
1. Purple leaf plum. Tree has been proven to be the cause of subsidence damage to a property
Mattison Road
1. O/S 22 Prunus sp. suffering blossom wilt It causes the trees to go into decline and usually die within 2-3 yrs. There is no treatment for the fungus.
Pemberton Road
1. O/S 49 Sorbus sp. Tree is dead
Warham Road
1. O/S 99 Acer sp. Tree is unsuitable specie & loo large for its location. Its root system continues to disrupts the pavement past pruning has not alleviated the problem
Seymour Road
1. O/S 72 Sorbus sp. Unsuitable specie for the location and damage can been seen to the adjacent property caused by the tree
2. O/S 68 Sorbus sp. Decay seen to the main stem, if tree remains likely to become unsafe
Hewitt Road
1. O/S 33. Prunus sp. Ganoderma fungus at base (if tree is left could deem the tree unsafe)
Allison Road
1. BT 110/112. Sorbus sp. Tree is in decline and dying
Beresford Road
1. O/S 115 Sorbus sp. Tree is ½ dead
2. O/S 24 Prunus sp. Tree is over mature and had grown too large for its location. Its root system continues to disrupts the pavement past pruning has not alleviated the problem
3. Side of 200 Wightman Road . Prunus sp. Tree is in decline and dying
Falkland Road
1. OPP 44 Sorbus sp. Leaning and has grafted root stock from the hawthorn family. These trees are unsuitable and have a high failure rate for falling over in high winds
Frobisher Road
1. Prunus sp O/S hall. Tree is ½ dead
Lausanne Road
1. O/S 73 Prunus sp. Tree is in decline
Hampden Road
1. BT 53/55 Prunus sp. Tree is in decline
Sydney Road
1. BT 83/85 Crataegus sp. Tree is dead
2. BT 98/100. Purple leaf plum. Tree has ganoderma fungus at base (if tree is left could deem the tree unsafe)
3. OS 70. Crataegus sp. Tree is ½ dead
4. O/S 50 Crataegus sp. Tree is in decline
Should you require further information let me know
Regards
Clare Carter
Arboricultural Officer
London Borough of Haringey
Tel: 020 8489 5774
Fax: 020 8489 5642
Email: clare.carter@haringey.gov.uk
Web: www.haringey.gov.uk
Mail: Recreation Services, Contract House, Park View Road , London N17 9AY…
ng, wind tunnels, light deminished 25 degrees out from the build, another 24 cars vieing for already oversubscribed parking, an unsatisfactory proportion of affordable housing this shouldn't get first nod. Let's get CABE to review the design.
A councilor should fight for the best for residents and not throw the towel in first round, much more could be achieved. This is two fingers to the people of Harringay.
Where is the Community Infrastructure Levy Money going, out of Harringay and what is the 123 list of approved community projects?
Frobisher road Junction with Green Lanes is a disgrace, hostile and dangerous, as is Turnpike Lane with Wightman Rd.
Where's the commitment to Living Wightman's aims for achieving a healthy living environment for residents?
Mitigating the impact of excessive vehicular movement though the Ladder and across Harringay, affecting all our health.
Tackling drug dealing on Harringay Passage, pushed on from Duckets Common.
Coordinating services to deal with homlessness in Finsbury Park and Green Lanes, with safe accommodation and rehabilitation.
Accessible transport for Hornsey and Harringay Stations, is anyone talking to Network Rail, Harringay pedestrian bridge continues to go ignored, as does the station overall to widen entrances to platforms, that are fit for purpose, and not restrictive and dangerous.
The ugly utilitarian palisade fencing down Wightman was requested by the council, no consideration to any visual impact to the road.
Our nearest EV charging station is Shopping City, nothing for Ladder residents to consider going electric, as an alternative. Where are our charging stations?
North Harringay and South Harringay Schools need money to refurbish and modernise.
We need to be heard.…
t I haven't visited the site for a while. Liz's post prompted me to do so again.
In my visit this time I found a few gems, like a photographer of nudes living in Warham Road early in the last century (at which time I imagine his trade would have been considered pretty racy). Then there was a piece about a dispute over Station Mansions on the corner of Hampden and Wightman Roads, by Hornsey Station. Apparently the occupants of the flats complained so much about the noise and smoke from the steam engines that the railway company felt obliged buy some of the flats for its train drivers.
Finally, I came across a reference to crew who died on the Titatnic. One of the number used to live above D P Mark Chemist, four doors down from The Salisbury. So I thought it worth a minute to remember a lost son of Harringay:
E T Barker. Aged 37. Rank, profession or occupation: Steward.
Nationality / Birthplace: London.
Last place of abode: 4 Grand Parade, Harringay.
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between affordable housing and social housing. The two are most definitely not the same.
Social housing is housing "let at low rents on a secure basis to those who are most in need or struggling with their housing costs. Normally councils and not-for-profit organisations (such as housing associations) are the ones to provide social housing" (Shelter).
In Haringey, social rents equate to approximately 35% of local market rents. (Haringey Housing Strategy).
Beyond social housing, there are two types of 'affordable' housing. Firstly there's straight 'affordable housing'. Then there's 'intermediate housing'.
In Haringey, 'affordable housing' can be applied to any rented housing with rent at any point up to 80% of the market rent. Below, from Haringey's 2017-2022 Housing Strategy the detail of the levels in the borough.
'Intermediate Homes' in the borough are those for sale and rent provided at a cost above social rent, but below market levels subject to the criteria in the affordable housing.
Seven gross income bands have been created by applying the principle that weekly housing costs for households in each band are limited to 45% of net income.
Haringey's strategy prioritises people in bands 1,2 and 5.
All clear now?
The borough has a target of a borough-wide provision of 40% affordable homes of all new homes delivered (including all types of home outlined above). The tenure split of the 'affordable' housing provided will be a balance of 60% rented and 40% intermediate, except in Tottenham, where these proportions are reversed.
Phew!
If you have an appetite for it the Housing Strategy document is attached.
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f I were employed by Jewson I would certainly argue that the order, as it is, does not prohibit any vehicle from using any street in the ladder or Wightman Road for the purpose of loading or unloading at Jewson's own premises.
If the drafter had intended to say that vehicles over 7.5 tons may use only Wightman Road (rather than any of the other scheduled streets) to reach Jewson's yard, then I think different phrasing would have been needed.
That having been said, it might perhaps be sensible to review the order itself and its whole context. In the first place, when the order was made, there were no humps so far as I know. Certainly there were none in Wightman Road. In the second place, the Order is entitled "The Haringey (Prescribed Route) (No. 2) Experimental Traffic Order 1992" so we might reasonably expect an assessment of whether the experiment has been successful and whether any changes are now needed. Tightening up the text must be an option, reducing the weight limit might help (although not if drivers continue to be inconsiderate). Removing the humps from streets often used by vehicles over the weight limit might be wise.
I have, over the years, found Jewson quite a handy supplier, although their Harringay yard it is certainly not indispensable, especially as they have another location on the industrial site off Tottenham Lane, N8. As Jewson is one of only two or three businesses in the ladder that need heavy vehicles to trundle past residential properties, one might think it is time to press for its removal altogether. The others are at the railway end of Hampden Road and don't seem to generate traffic south of there.
On the other hand, I am sure that Jewson's management would prefer to get their drivers to behave better than to see extremely inconvenient restrictions placed on their use of local streets.
I think this thread has itself become a bit heavy. Perhaps HoL could provide some editorial guidance.…
ing regulations, air quality and being a good neighbour. At the north end of the ladder alongside the park we are blessed with 5 (officially) Church/Mosque establishments in the space of 3 and a bit roads which makes things a bit cheek by jowl at peak times.
Does a worship activity somehow trump common sense and safety not to mention void penalty ticketing?
The Greek church is lovely,- I particularly admire the roof of the spire- but since the council put bollards on the pavement to stop churchgoers parking on the pavement outside the front on wightman road and blocking the way they have resorted to- just parking directly on the road, thus reducing Wightman to a single lane on Sundays during services. And don't get me started on the Funerals which of course happen at any time during the week and lead to similar chaos.
The population of Greek Church attendees in particular seems to have a high number of Disabled drivers who park on double yellow lines willy nilly regardless of the sense of their chosen stopping place. One such gentlemen explained to me that 'I am disabled so I can park where I like' when I mentioned politely as he was getting out that he might not have noticed his car was sticking out by the entrance to the side street which would make it difficult for others to get past..
Then there's the Gospel church at the bottom of the park on Frobisher. I really fear there might be a serious road rage incident here as church parking also makes the route through single lane access only and is a serious problem as vehicles get stuck and no one can get out. The relaxed attitude of Parishioners to chatting on the road while cars back up in queues waiting for them to move their vehicles also does not lead one to the sort of enlightenment that might be hoped for...
I'm also curious that the mosque attendees regularly park on the double yellows on Hampden road throughout the week at the railway end which were presumably put in place to allow for the large railways/metal yard trucks. Several times I've witnessed the trucks struggling to get around the corner from Wightman to the railway yards because someone/two/three had left their cars parked on the double yellows outside the Mosque gates. (or cars on both sides even) - I have *never* seen a vehicle ticketed here and walk past often.
Shades of Sainsburys Car Park congestion! I jest slightly but- It's (holy) a mystery to me...
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s numbers of debates about where graffiti should be allowed free rein and where it should be controlled. So I don't intend to go over that ground here. But, I would point out that a key difference between the New River Path and Parkland Walk in respect of this debate is the percentage of the respective areas that is potential graffiti canvas.
To the best of my knowledge, in Parkland Walk, graffiti is confined to the tiny percentage of the length of the strip that has brick walls available as canvas. You notice it in passing and move on. In the case of the New River Path between Hampden and Allison Roads, almost 50% of the length of the path is bounded by the railway wall. Left open for graffiti, it would completely dominate the space.
Although, compared to many other cities around the world, we're blessed in London to have a good level of green areas, natural (or quasi-natural) green space still makes up less than 20% of the total. There are some parts of town where street art and graffiti look appealing. However, I'm very much in favour of preserving our green areas as green oases for all and giving graffiti freer rein in some (not all) of the other 80%.…