ltering syrup into people's ears as if the closure will have NO effect on anyone living on the ladder or wider area at all.
If you live at the north end of wightman and your normal drive to sainsburys (if that's what you do) is south to Endymion the road. The road is closed.
So say so..
Stop the "" the road will be filtered and thats fine because we'll be all be OK. it will only put a stop to through traffic""
It's to stop the north south movement of anything.
I think that's being economical with the .. Filtering.…
he road the site is on can't actually be accessed directly from Hollway Rd, you have to walk round in a big loop to get to it. Seems a bit short sighted to me, I would almost certainly ask for my parcel to be redelivered (assuming that option is still available in these troubled times).As for the TK Maxx traffic fantasy .. ahem .. prediction what utter b#€$$€###s. Seriously - they are going to all the trouble of opening a new store and they think all their customers will come from people already visiting the existing shops? Completely mad, I do not believe TX Maxx expect this for one moment. I remember, like lots of people here, the traffic bedlam when the bigger Sainsburies opened - something that's really not that far off being repeated, especially at Xmas. It is so sensitive to the external traffic in the area - one little hitch on Green Lanes can cause complete gridlock. This new shop will just make that even more likely.…
ich probably did not help the traffic on Green Lanes with everyone stopping for a shout. The Homebase end car park looked pretty full and there was a traffic jam with people trying to get out, but by the time we finished in Next and got to Sainsbury's the car park was beginning to clear, but still quite full. When we finally got back to the junction, the police had arrived.
I presume they called the police before one of the car park attendants got a tire iron imbedded in their forehead and keep the traffic moving. Walking back down Green Lanes, we saw quite a lot of very tense and angry car drivers (including one woman who got out of her car to scream at another diver face to face for cutting in front of her). That is my take on it - I did not see anything out of the ordinary going on that would suggest something untoward happened in the Arena.
Happy New Year to everyone too! …
ith Green Lanes will get restructured as part of this. I think those junctions are at the heart of the Green Lanes congestion, with or without traffic reduction measures on Wightman. Hopefully the junction restructuring could include taking the bus stops off the main route.
I'd be interested to hear your observations on how at the current Wightman closure has affected Endymion. I've been in 10 minute eastbound queues on Endymion at certain times of day - like Sunday afternoon - but other times - like weekday mornings - it has seemed surprisingly quiet. Unfortunately I don't think there was any traffic data for Endymion in January - the closest we have is Upper Tollington Park which recorded 95K vehicle journeys, plus can see 47K exiting Wightman (actually Alroy) onto Endymion and maybe 48K entering Wightman from Endymion.…
ike public transport or cycling. I had a plumber visit me on foot during the bridgeworks and heard several stories of people who used to drive to work from say Enfield to Islington who decided to use the train instead. All the neighbours I've spoken to drove less and walked or cycled more. I certainly cycled more during the bridgeworks than I have in the last twenty years.
Incidentally I'm not sure the proliferation of home deliveries increases traffic overall - say the average Sainsbury's delivery visits a dozen homes, so that is one big round trip rather than a dozen shorter ones - probably a net reduction? Amazon probably similarly saves many more individual round trips to retail parks etc.…
rday there was a massive traffic jam and the lights from Endimiyon Roard into Green Lanes was only 8 seconds of green. And yes, that is junction (Endimiyon and Green Lanes) where the council make a massive killing from cars being stuck in the diagonal boxes and getting fined ....nice one Haringey ...goes hand in hand with them coming around at 6am in the morning to tow away cars that are 6 inches over the double lines that they have installed at ALL THE ROAD junctions. Was that a safety issue or a cash cow for the council???…
t a personal Sainsbury's service direct to your door, you don't get stuck in traffic, you never have to bother with all that heavy lifting and you will be providing a fantastic public service to the bored and drunk, because as we all know, nothing is more hilarious than getting in a trolley and being wheeled up and down Hermitage Road by your mates late at night.
It's a win/win for everyone! :)
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reen Road because cars had as ever parked on double yellow lines by Sainsburys local near Seven Sisters but it only took 15 minutes (sic) from Philip Lane to Tottenham Hale . There was very light traffic on Philip Lane too and nothing sticking out of side roads near Seven Sisters. So much smoother than it used to be - and I've spent 17 years commuting so cant see what fuss is.
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ousing requirements and perseverance from developers get through in the end, when no one can argue anymore that something needs doing about the buildings left to rot all these years.
So I'm not even going to bother making my views heard this time, although I'm not particularly looking forward to losing our recycling centre to a car park, or having hundreds more residents driving through the road I live on, not to mention a stupider jam at the railway bridge. There's going to be enough traffic, dust and noise around where I live anyway in the near future, with a new building 50% taller than the current one mushrooming right opposite my house and another one being built round the corner.
But if there is one thing I am really sad about, it's the demolition of the Hornsey Baths building. Am I really seeing clearly on the plan?!? Because it doesn't say anywhere "We're going to destroy the old Hornsey Baths". These have been quietly standing there in recent years, as if the intention was to keep them, so I'm shocked to see that they'll be taken down! Aren't they part of the High Street Conservation area – or does this not mean anything? And take them down for what? to enlarge the road leading to the car park and build a modern Sainsbury café? Can't they be used to give that café a bit of character?
More info on http://hornseydepot.com/masterplan/
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st of my knowledge prone to exageration.
The other Council responses about traffic alleviation etc do suggest that he is correct.
The site will be designed in such a way that it will help to keep shopping traffic, local and accessed primarily by foot.
Initial transport modelling has shown that the supermarket is the single largest draw for car-borne traffic, which is then compounded by the other car-compatible uses on the retail park. By replacing these uses with more walk-up retail, congestion at this point can be alleviated” “The allocation includes provision for the superstore to no longer operate
It seems to be that the whole premise of their plan is that the supermarket will go. Perhaps you know something that we don't?…