just insane. You should contact Sainsburies and ask them for their view on that policy.
What amazes me is that it doesn't seem to put people off going there. Surely once you'd experienced that you'd shop elsewhere by car or just go on foot?
A bit off-post but this is one of the reasons I'm opposed to the new Hornsey Sainsburies. The nature of the traffic there, particularly the bottle necks that build up when you are heading east and the narrow main road that grinds to a halt if a bus stops to pick up passengers, makes me worry that there will be similar problems.
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r question is how the area (specifically Harringay) can handle the additional traffic. Last year was gridlocked from Sainsbury's car park and the Arena onto to Green Lanes. I imagine with our current traffic situation that this grid lock will completely shut down Green Lanes/Turnpike Lane and cause traffic back up to Muswell Hill, Crouch End and Highgate, not to mention F Park, Clissold Park, Highbury etc. The whole of Harringay will be landlocked and shut down. Surely this could be a Health and Safety issue. Woe betide anyone who needs emergency services anywhere on the Ladder, Wightman, Gardens, St Anne's etc. Surely Haringey Council has considered this???…
Finsbury Park Ave saying its private, but thats a ways down from the start of the road and only about 50 yards from that Sainsburys gate. So its really only a hundred yards or so of the road that would be used and perhaps it could be possible to buy/lease/? occasional use of just that small section of the road.- then on Eade and Vale roads there are openable gates blocking access on to Seven Sisters Rd. A large amount of Eade Rd is pretty industrial and traffic isn't going to bother anyone.It does seem like that if there are really no other alternatives then if those access points could be opened up for short periods when Green Lanes is gridlocked then that might make quite a big difference. I can fully appreciate it would be far less than ideal for the residents on those stretches of the roads to have the additional traffic but if its only occasionally and with wardens ensuring its not used by big vehicles then i wonder if there is a balance to consider as its also less than ideal for the other residents of wider Harringay to have Green Lanes jammed up so you can't catch a bus anywhere and traffic spilling onto all the side roads off Green Lanes.…
wont be able to link them and trying to control that is a wasted exercise IMO. As long as it's not rude, insulting etc let the evolution of the post trot along naturally. The beauty of this style of forum is you can comment to a particular point so it's all in context.
.....anyway that traffic at Sainsbury's is awful.......…
ime so I can go during the week. But many people only have weekends on which to do their shopping, and have you tried carrying home a whole family shop on a bike?…
be that far from a supermarket so I think you are massively overplaying how lucky we are in that respect.
Thanks for the links Hugh, and the information about the expansion. I agree from a quick skim it’s hard to see this reduce traffic volumes. …
um April......sorry May....
I imagine if the lights had been fiddled with, they'd have put them back by now. The new lights may help, but I'm sceptical as to whether the'll solve it. Granting planning permission for expanding Sainsbury's generated more traffic. It was, in my view, in failing to consider, or give sufficient weight to, the impact of granting planning permission that the mistake was made. There now appears to be insufficient political will to correct the planning errors that were made. To put much blame on the reatilers is just passing the buck on from where it belongs.…
Green Lanes because the phasing is set to let just 3 cars out at a time. The lights are set that way to ensure Green Lanes flows quicker. If the Sainsbury's crew were to be unleashed on us the traffic would be backed up for hours and we would never be able to leave.
The roads were closed off some years ago to stop the endless procession of lorries and minicabs using our area as a cut through from Green Lanes to Seven Sisters. At least once an hour a vast wagon edges between the houses right up to the road block, guided by some out of date sat nav. The driver generally gets out, walks up to the road block then starts swearing before heading back into the cab to spend the next 30 mins doing a 40 point turn. Any car parked within 10 foot of a corner is rewarded with a large dent.
Opening up the roads behind Sainsbury's is not an option.…
sburys have abandoned their ambitions or will it just be developing a smaller site and supermarket.
This raises a lot of other issues too, most importantly traffic impacts and adequate public transport. Haringey is not the strongest borough on getting it's public transport right, and as the only bus that passes is the 144, it is hardly convenient for Crouch End, is it?
Food for thought.
And the comments so far on housing are so right. As an ex Housing Officer with two boroughs, Barnet and Hillingdon, claims about affordable housing stick in my gullet. Social Housing is rented, and often at subsidised rents. Shared ownership homes are of limited benefit to many on low incomes. I could rant on ...…
Added by 0au62mcjc4khe at 12:54 on February 24, 2013
on my car - it is still in the garage 12 days later as the recovery truck broke the steering lock when removing it. Anyway, I digress.
I got my first delivery yesterday and it was brilliant - everything I wanted, only £3 delivery charge and the driver was courteous and friendly and brought my shopping up two flights of stairs. So much better than being stuck in traffic with a three year old and having to haul it all home.
Perhaps if more people followed suit, the traffic problem would ease. The new car park lay out has eased the problem slightly but having traffic lights onto Green Lanes is always going to cause a jam, especially if there's road works as well.…