Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Wood Green High Road north of Station Road now called Green Lanes!
I have just seen a Progress Update letter sent to the residents of Ringslade Road in Wood Green about through route issues along Watsons Road and Ringslade Road. I know these two roads are not in Harringay but it might be of interest to some readers that Haringey Council has described the Wood Green High Road north of Station Road as Green Lanes on three occasions in their letter. Not once in the letter has the council described the road as the High Road. Haringey-Traffic-RingsladeRd20052013.pdf. Older residents of the area may know this stretch of the High Road road as "Jolly Butcher's Hill".
It looks like Green Lanes will once again stretch from Newington Green to Winchmore Hill and we must never refer to this part of the road as the High Road , well, at least to the council that is, as they won't know what you are talking about even though they occupy a tall office office block at the junction of Station Road and the High Road ooops sorry I mean Green Lanes! https://www.google.co.uk/mapmaker?ll=51.598247,-0.110571&spn=0....
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Permalink Reply by Lesley Ramm on
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I know that part as Jolly Butchers Hill (after the pub there). Is the name change official? What do road signs say?
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Permalink Reply by Renato B on
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I have just had a look at the Google street view and there is definitely a sign that says "High Road" outside St Michael's Church .. no doubt Haringey Council will be changing it to "Green Lanes"!!!!
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Good thought, but actually it doesn't. The address is Grand Parade, Green Lanes, Harringay.
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Permalink Reply by Maggie on
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I thought that north of station road it was Green Lanes again, all the way up to past Palmer's Green...?
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Nope. I have read, the stretch of Green Lanes in Wood Green was renamed High Road in 1895.. that is nearly 120 years ago when developers were building middle class homes in Harringay. http://hidden-london.com/gazetteer/green-lanes/
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Oh dear .... the more I am investigating this ...the worse it's getting .... the name change of the Wood Green High Road to Green Lanes looks like it has been applied to the Wood Green Underground Station too .. see this link from QYPE, http://www.qype.co.uk/place/241705-Wood-Green-Tube-Station-London. Where are these people getting this information from? Next thing you know, they will be renaming Wood Green Underground Station "Green Lanes"!!!
Looks like the area is having an image makeover. Are the Estate Agents involved?
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I'd always thought that the High Road section was only the part between Turnpike Lane and Wood Green tubes, but having just checked the Ordnance Survey map online, it shows that officially the high road stretch goes up to the North Circular. But I've always understood that local people north of the Civic Centre call it Green Lanes, don't they?
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.... and you thought the same too!
Why would people who live on the High Road north of the Civic Centre call it Green Lanes especially when they have a High Road postal address? The road signage is very clear along the entire stretch of road. It is the High Road from The Broadway right up to the Haringey/Enfield borough border i.e all of the N22 post code. The maps confirm this. The Google street images confirm this too, I counted at least six High Road street signs
There is no Green Lanes in Wood Green nor in the N22 post code. The council should not be making these big mistakes about one of their major thoroughfares in the borough.
I expect someone has already brought this error to the attention of the council and an official severely reprimanded! Hopefully with a suitable punishment (e.g walk up the entire High Road one hundred times). But, will the council learn from their mistake? Can I trust them when they talk about Green Lanes?
There is only one Green Lanes in the Borough of Haringey and that is in Harringay!
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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"I expect someone has already brought this error to the attention of the council..."
Why not you Renata? Email. Though can there be any error about the road south of the North Circular Road where Haringey begins?
Anyway, what really is the problem with enjoying and celebrating all the myriad place names we inherit from the past? Tasting them and rolling them around your tongue.
I shall not rest quiet in Montparnasse.
I shall not lie easy at Winchelsea.
You may bury my body in Sussex grass,
You may bury my tongue at Champmedy.
I shall not be there. I shall rise and pass.
Bury my heart at Wounded Knee.
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Permalink Reply by dawnage on
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I live off that stretch of road (in Bowes & Bounds territory, I know, but I still like to check out HoL) these days, close to the Tesco Metro, and call it Green Lanes. I'm probably a bit influenced by having lived in N4, though.
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This may be helpful:
In July 2010 I noticed that Newlon Housing had put up an orange sign to "Newlon Approach N15". So I asked and got confirmation that the streetname - Town Hall Approach Road - was not changing. (Click for photo.)
I was also told by Haringey's Legal Department that renaming a street would require consultation with the occupants and everyone with an interest in the street. Renaming a street is only considered if the current name causes problems for the occupants and is requested by the occupants themselves.
The Environment Department - it's now got some daft made-up name I can never remember - told me that: "We would not be involved with the renaming of streets. This is a temporary sign directing highway users to a new housing development called Newlon Approach".
So as well as raising a question about Green Lanes on a website, can I suggest simply asking the Council?
(Tottenham Hale ward councillor)
P.S. As people who know Tottenham Green will have seen, "temporary" Newlon advertising signs are not so temporary. Leona Helmsley was famous for saying: ""We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes".
It sometimes seems to me that large, wealthy, unaccountable organisations have rules waived - in this case about public signage - which would be applied to us little people.
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