Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Will my kids die earlier than they should?
Not a pleasant thought but my kids spend a lot of time on Green Lanes going to and from school and I worry about how this might effect their health in future years. The pollution is often visible and they are probably breathing in all kinds of invisible poisons. Does anyone know where I might be able to get some credible and independent stats on pollution levels on Green Lanes to put my mind at ease (at least relatively)?
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Permalink Reply by james walsh on
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Ha ha ha - that's a good one well done
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I think James's supercilious respose was due to the fact that high levels of air pollution on and near major thoroughfares has been a matter of great concern for several decades....and there are several worthy organisations working hard to correct this. Even the EU has intervened to tell Boris its just not good enough...which is why he's been floated some hare-brained schemes lately...
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Permalink Reply by Ian on
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Public Health England - Estimates of mortality in local authority areas associated with air pollution
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/estimates-of-mortality-in-local-...
http://www.londonair.org.uk/ (kings college london) have an iphone and android app
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The majority of PM10s and PM5s, NOXs, SOxs, benzine, etc mainly come from vehicle exhausts.
Unfortunately there are too many diesel and petrol cars on the road. Paying for the public health consequences both socially (Irony being 4x4 owners in london who have kids with asthma) and financial (NHS treatment aint free).
Economists can yell until they are blue in the face (much as climate scientists). Evidence don't win, it's who shouts the loudest in the right ears.
But yes there is a causal link.
However, on a positive note - incomes here are relatively high - eating a good diet, staying off the drugs and exercising gives a fighting chance
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Permalink Reply by GillianM on
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MichaelW has posted some info on this - a year or so ago - you may be able to search and find it. It's definitely a concern for me. Apart from using side streets or the passage where you can, or using a buggy with a higher seat so babies not at exhaust level, not sure what can be done!
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Thank you - charity donations this way >
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Permalink Reply by Karen Alexander on
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This had been a top priority for me during my councillorship. My approach, working with local residents, was to get one of our most polluted roads, Wightman Road, made 20mph, in line with the other ladder roads and more importantly to tackle the massive problem of HGVs using our roads, the Wightman Road camera is a start but it is not the end and without strong effective Councillors working with residents to ensure proper enforcement it will have little effect.
The council should be robustly enforcing the HGV ban not least so that it can effect it's duty to residents on air pollution levels.
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Absolutely. Big cars are awfully convenient.
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Permalink Reply by ant on
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There is a Guardian article from last year with an Interactive map of pollution levels on London roads. Here's a screenshot:
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Permalink Reply by Ruben on
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That's hardly any pollution. The only places with pollution are the roads where we have put the traffic. Green lanes is obviously bad because all traffic from around has been pushed there.
We live in a city with high density of population. So high density of motor vehicles (private, but also public to service transport, supply of foods and other goods, etc) high density of central gas heating, etc. Yet again, compare with any other metropolis and london is paradise.
James' coments may seem sarcastic, but I find naive to choose to live in a city and complain of pollution.
And while I support measures to reduce pollution as a whole, this seems to be another post turning into let's ban cars from roads (in particular mine first if you don't mind). All the while, london is being given targets to build affordable (small) homes which will increase population and inevitably pollution (anyone else noticed? )
I'd rather see more rubbish collections
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Ruben - you have so much wrong here. Firstly, the post is about the level of pollution. Your implication that urban living = cars smacks of cognitive dissonance and is like the smoker saying "we'll all die anyway". The point you have missed is not to do away with all cars (or to "ban cars from roads"), it's to improve air quality.
So, whereas I am sure you may be super efficient in your car usage (I assume that's how you're actively supporting air pollution reduction - or does support mean turning a blind eye to people who protest now and again) the issue is for the rest of us to be encouraged to use polluting cars less not more. There are many examples of such changes occurring successfully in urban areas (copenhagen, amsterdam, berlin, etc etc).
Ironic statement about rubbish collections. Rubbish is just waste. Pollution is just waste. Doesn't more rubbish collections we are consuming too much? Rubbish collections are designed around capacity. Not consumerism.
How about we just consume less? There's too much shit in the world.
Our children will have highly relevant facts to hand (in the future) about the time when something could have been done (today), but when many of us chose to do nothing. Personally, I'd like to look them in the eye and say I did what I could.
That wasn't making rash judgements about people making factual statements about a significant public health issue.
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