Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Smoke Nuisance - Mattison/Pemberton Roads
Has anyone else noticed of late that there is a plume of restaurant smoke accumulating over the mid section of Pemberton and Mattison roads. Usually just over South Harringay School? I know that this is a common complaint in the neighbourhood but I have noticed it is far more pronounced, permanent and noxious than ever before, leading me to believe that it may be one of the restaurants in the area possibly lacking the required filtering systems?
It is very concentrated - to the point where one can smell what is being cooked, and tends to 'hover' over said area - one can tell that the air quality changes by going up and down the ladder streets.
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Permalink Reply by Dan77 on
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Dear Zena,
Has there been any progress on this? Would be good to know how we can bring this to the council's attention effectively.
Thanks
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Hi Zena,
I just wondered if there was any way you could share with residents the best way to report smoke nuisance on the Gardens and Ladder to council officers? I'm not sure, based on your posts, whether you are looking into this for us? If not I will pursue another way.
Thanks
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Permalink Reply by Harringay 4eva on
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Thanks for following up Dan77 yes, I’d be interested to hear from Zena on how to report this & what they’ve done to follow up so far.
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Permalink Reply by kotkas on
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I had floated the idea of borrowing an air quality monitor and recording the impact of the restaurants - I bet it’s going to be way above legal limits.
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Permalink Reply by Tom on
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I’ve got videos of the smoke pumping out of either Hala or Gokyuzu (file too big to upload here).
I think we need to understand what evidence we need for the council to take action, and then we can work together to gather it.
Shall we create a WhatsApp group to do this? My number is 07905696510
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I think this is a good idea.
I had environment people come out from the council - a couple of years back. They said that under the Clean Air Act, they can only take action if levels of smoke are unacceptable inside the house. Anything is permissible on the street, they said.They also advised my to keep a diary, but I couldn't really see the point.
Someone posted on here about something called Planetwatch - it sounded quite interesting but I couldn't quite get away from the idea that they wanted quite a bit of cash to set it up. But if there were enough people perhaps we could share a sensor? Here's the post:https://harringayonline.com/forum/topics/local-air-quality-and-gath...
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If the council won't help get Greta and her mates around to protest. It's a climate emergency innit. "How dare you" etc. A bit of publicity for the local restaurants might incentivise them to change their ways.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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In March 2019 Joe and his valued colleagues ensured Haringey was among the first local authorities in the whole of the UK to declare a Climate Emergency. Since then it has been working apace shoveling public cash to developers to build unsustainable concrete and steel towers.
And other great stuff like leasing out parts of parks
C'mon, Devon Williams, credit where credit is due.
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Permalink Reply by Martin (Woodside) on
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I welcome the idea of having the world's gastronomy on my doorstep, but the problem is that there are far too many restaurants just cooking the same food, including the illegal one near me in N22. Unlike other forms of cooking, charcoal grills have to be on almost 24/7, see the leaden-hued carcinogenic cloud that sits over the High Road on still days. I don't eat in these places any more as I find the food far too greasy and over-salted.
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Permalink Reply by Bob Ruggles on
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Check Environmental Protection Act
Legislation which Central Government brought out as a Minimum, requirement
Which Local Authorities have to Act on
It also allows expenses against prosecutions
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Agreed, there has got to be a concentration rule applied to the licensing of charcoal-fuelled restaurants as it results in an overconcentration of pollution that disproportionately affects people who live here. But I'm not going to hold my breath - I am sure I will have moved out of the borough by the time something sensible gets done on this issue.
The only other route is one precipitated by the market - as I have gone on record many times before, I do see that there's little additional demand for Turkish and many of the new entrants have gone bust.
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Yes, their popularity seems to have peaked and will probably go the same way as the once ubiquitous curry house.
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