Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Salisbury / St Ann's Road "improvements" disaster
As expected, the works outside the Salisbury have not only created chaos but also will lead - it is quite clear - to a significantly more dangerous situation for cylists.
No longer will cyclists be able to head from St Ann's Road up to Green Lanes and then turn left at the pub into the main road, as before, because the huge kerbs that have been installed on the bulging new "island" outside the north entrance to the pub prevent anyone from doing that without cycling straight into the path of oncoming traffic turning into St Ann's Road.
So one has to, instead, head east down St Ann's Road, move into the centre of the carriageway (notwithstanding you may have a number of boy racers just behind you enjoying, in the typical way for this location, the opportunity to get free of traffic and lights and put their foot to the floor) and then wait for a chance to turn before completing a dog-leg to the right - into Salisbury Road - and then heaving uphill (again ahead of impatient drivers keen to make - or break - the lights by the bookies) all the way to the junction. Time-consuming, dangerous, and pointless.
Not only that, but turning right into St Ann's Road from Green Lanes is also now far more hazardous because "quick" right turns ahead of slow-moving oncoming southbound traffic are now not possible as one has to head further north than previously before making the turn; and being undercut by right-turning vehicles is much more of a possibility because of the angle that one has to take the turn at.
I can't see any evidence that cyclists have been considered in these plans at all.
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Can't you use the Gardens or Harringay Road?
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Permalink Reply by Harringay Birder on
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Hi John
I can use the Gardens but that still means tackling St Ann's Road and then turning right against traffic into a road which will involve going along right angles before finally emerging onto Green Lanes. Takes far longer, more dangerous.
Harringay Road is northbound only for its southern half so is no use for heading to town.
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Hermitage Rd?
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Permalink Reply by Matt on
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There are no provisions for cycling in the plans at all. A golden opportunity wasted. And John, there may be alternate routes, but that is beside the point, cyclists should feel safe and comfortable on the same routes as other road users.
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When we block off roads, as in the case of the Gardens or Hermitage Rd, they surely become a preferred route for cycling traffic.
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That would depend entirely on where you're coming from, and where you want to get to :)
Any change that makes cycling more difficult/dangerous is a bad change surely, and can't be mitigated by a quieter road elsewhere.
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If they blocked off Wightman Rd I would have no sympathy with cyclists who complained that Green Lanes had become more dangerous for cyclists. Many of the east/west routes towards the ladder are blocked off, they're perfect for cycling.
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Permalink Reply by Richard Hulbert on
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Sorry Matt as a cyclist and pedestrian I have to agree with John the Gardens allow you to avoid a good part of St Ann's Rd. There are many more dangerous places to address in the borough.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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But everybody loved the idea of the pocket park
You couldn't have a pocket park with cyclists whizzing through it.
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"But everybody loved the idea of the pocket park "
No they didn't!!
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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Pavements? (I don't know the junction.) The official cycle lanes on the refurbished tottnm one-way are mixed pavements, with little signs to alert us to these. Not sure if this is the final final plan, as the pavements are about twenty feet wide so have plenty of room for a separate cycle lane. But it does mean that mixing pedestrians and cyclists is on the agenda for London.
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You couldn't have a cycle lane on the pavement here as there would be carnage because of the number of drinkers who will be taking over the pavement and the risk of broken glass etc..
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