Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Sainsbury's Local on West Green Road
Just drove by, and saw to my astonisment that a Sainsburys local will be opening up on West Green Road, between Terront and Etherly Road. Sign says it will open on 8th August. Can't imagine the large veg shop a few doors down will be able to stay open.
But I'll have an alternative to Tesco Metro for last minute parmesan ...
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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In my experience, veg shops are cheaper than Sainsbury and have a better range.
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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We are also getting one this end, at number 5. They are breeding. And the monster one to come at Spurs, and several more. In our case we hope it will aid the fight against the evil Grainger plan to demolish the block, as it proves we dont need an eight storey block to house a national store. Sadly Fair Deal are moving out (while keeping the freehold), we hope they will find another local site to carry on their service.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Is someone forcing you to use it, Iain?
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If people want to use it, why shouldn't they ?
If people don't want to use it they'll go bust.
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Permalink Reply by hob on
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Not a great example, I know, but cigarettes around there are a lot more expensive than most areas. It is all I have ever bought around there but maybe a bit of competition would be good for the area.
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Permalink Reply by Geoff Amabilino on
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A lot of people around here, including several of the businesses on WGR, think it's a good thing. Free cash machine apart from anything else! It is filling in two empty shop fronts plus one they bought out, and could bring extra footfall to existing businesses. And personally, I'll carry on using the Atakan for most things, especially their fruit and veg.
When Tesco opened their Metro on Green Lanes there was a fear that it would affect local shops, but I don't think that was born out in practice. Sainsburys Local will appeal to a different group of shoppers, especially those who don't like the local shops and won't need to get on a bus to Wood Green. Looking at the Seven Sisters end of WGR, there are a host of businesses that have survived despite having a large Tesco within a stone's throw so I'm not inclined to despondency!
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The cash dispensers is a good point. I was charged £1.50 for getting some money out in a shop up around there. I was not impressed.
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Initially trading at a loss - I think - Amazon have undercut local bookstores to capture a large slice of the book market. Which is why, not just to stay in business but to flourish, places like the Big Green Bookshop have developed a huge range of imaginative 'extras' to make it a lively interesting place, rooted in the local community.
But it also comes down to the question of whether enough people are prepared to pay a few pounds more. Especially if you agree with Tim Waterstone that Amazon discount local bookshops to death. (Link)
Sometimes things change for simpler reasons. There used to be a family-run cornershop near us. When their lease ended they told me they weren't renewing it; because what their wholesaler charged exceeded the prices of the same stuff in the High Road. On the other hand, there should be a future for a local independent foodstore which sells a wide range of fresh produce at keen prices. And with helpful staff who understand and plan according to who their customers (and potential customers) are. Several years ago, at Yasar Halim in Green Lanes, I pointed out a would-be customer who'd come from Ilford and needed help getting his wheelchair into the shop.
And what about the notion that people come to a shopping centre and not just to one shop? (Or anchor store) It seems to me that this is what Hugh and others are encouraging by giving information on HoL about the range of shops, restaurants and other businesses in and around Green Lanes and Harringay.
I used to travel regularly to Shepherds Bush and still go to my favourite falafel place.
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We never buy veg from a supermarket as the local veg stores are so much cheaper. Doubt the veg shop's existing customer base will erode.
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I agree with Iain on this.
Where I grew up in Cambridge, there has recently been a huge campaign to stop a sainsbury's opening up in an area full of small independent shops. http://millroadsociety.org/
It worked - they were refused planning permission.
Looks like we're a bit late to the party on this one Iain, planning has already been approved.
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Thanks for the link to the Cambridge example. I'm not a planning lawyer, but the comparison shows a significant difference. In Cambridge a Change of Use was proposed: from snooker hall to food store. This does need planning permission. But the premises in West Green Road were retail shops and so there is no change of use requiring permission.
If you look at the documents on Haringey's planning website, you'll see that in 1979 there was a successful planning application there for a bakery. Sainsbury's application is for an extension of hours. You'll also see that there were no objections to this application.
(Tottenham Hale ward councillor)
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