Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Reported flytipping to Veolia but with no luck - any ideas?
I live on Chesterfield Gardens and this little lot has been dumped out on the street for the last week. It is just round the corner from Chesterfield Mews, and I suspect what's happened is that one of the houses on the mews has decided that there's no room there for their bin, and moved it round the corner to sit out on the pavement on Chesterfield Gardens. Because its right at the top of the road there are lots of passers by (not to mention smokers from the betting shop on the corner) and people have started using it as a public bin, meaning it very quickly filled up and then started to spill over on to the pavement. Then once the overspill started people started to flytip additional rubbish, and every day it seems to grow a little. I have now reported it to Veolia 4 times, and each time I'm told they've passed it on to the relevent team, but nothing happens. I think because there is a black bin sitting in the middle of it they are treating it as a once a fortnight collection rather than as flytipping. Any ideas of what else I can do to get this sorted? Not only does it look awful, but it also stinks, and with my windows open I can actually smell it in my house - not nice!
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Try the Neighbourhood Action Team.
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Permalink Reply by Betty Careless on
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Thaks Hugh!
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Permalink Reply by Abi on
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Much of that doesn't look like domestic waste to me - is there a restaurant joining in too?
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There's a load of restaurants on Green Lanes that back on the Chesterfield Mews so it could well be one of them - or possibly just a private household with a very unhealthy diet ; )
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This has now been sorted and completely cleared. However I noticed that the bin has been moved back to Chesterfield Mews but in order not to block the mews for cars it's sitting in their porch completely blocking their front door - presumably why they'd shoved it out on the pavement in the first place. So I suspect this will be an ongoing problem. Linked into other discussions on here I guess very narrow streets like mews need some kind of communal bins because there just isn't room for a wheelie bin for each property.
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I e-mailed John but didn't get a reply. I might try and give him a call because I noticed this morning that two huge clear plastic bags of empty bottles had been dumped there which I'm guessing is probably down to one of the restaurants.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Zena Brabazon has reported dumping at this spot on several occasions.
Most recently, in April I took similar photos to Betty's. I also emailed asking Haringey to take another look, to see if there was evidence of who was dumping. And also to suggest some way to tackle this problem.
Today I got a reply, though it isn't too optimistic. Some useful work has been done. And they've experimented with a bag collection instead of wheeled bins.
Hopefully, after the election, the councillors in Harringay ward will keep a neighbourly eye on these "head roads" across Green Lanes to see how things might be improved.
----- Original Message -----
From: Haringey Waste Management
To: Cllr Alan Stanton
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 4:06 PM
Subject: Regular Dumping in Chesterfield Gardens N4 at the corner of Chesterfield MewsThank you for your enquiry. The Neighbourhood Officer for the area has since visited the location in order to search the rubbish bags on site, however was once again unable to find evidence to identify the person/s who are responsible for dumping refuse at this location.
I understand that residents of Chesterfield Mews used to have wheel bins but as a result of the bins constantly being removed from the alleyway and being left on the footway causing an obstruction the wheel bins were removed a couple of months ago. Resident were then placed on a bag collection service. Therefore we have assumed that some of the refuse that is being placed out may be from resident of Chesterfield Mews, although we are unable to prove this is the case. Residents were given instructions on where refuse should be placed for collection and the times refuse could be placed out in order to prevent any dumping.
Our waste contractor’s Outreach Team have since visited residents and left advice leaflets in respect of waste disposal and minimisation. The Neighbourhood Action Officer for the area will continue to search any bags found dumped at this location in an attempt to identify the culprits in order to take the appropriate enforcement action i.e. issuing a fixed penalty notice.
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This problem is getting steadily worse and worse. There is almost always some fly-tipped rubbish there. If there is a pre-arranged bag collection for the Mews residents this doesn’t seem to be working on a regular basis, as rubbish often sits there for days at a time.
I have started taking photos and posting them here: http://bettycareless.tumblr.com/ so I have a running record. As you can see, it will start off as a couple of bags and then grow (sometimes quite spectacularly). To add insult to injury, on more than one occasion I have seen people actually urinating on the rubbish pile – so I pity whoever is going through the rubbish to look for address evidence!
As the nearest garden with bins we also get people dumping rubbish in our bins, which would be fine, except they already have to serve 3 flats and get full quickly, and often people will put non-recycling in the green bin and then Veolia will refuse to take it.
John Forde (our local neighbourhood person) has been helpful but it seems like there’s nothing anyone can do, which is incredibly frustrating. Having to pick my way through urine sodden rubbish every time I leave the house doesn’t exactly brighten my day.
An associated problem is the massive communal waste bins for the Mews, which are rolled out on to the Gardens for collection. There are about four or five of them and they often block the whole of the pavement. Unfortunately between the gigantic bins and the fly-tipping, the top end of Chesterfield Gardens often just feels like living on a rubbish tip.
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The council have now stuck notices on the rubbish asking people to report if they know who dumped it, and pointing out there's a fine. To be honest though the pile has grown since they put the notice on, so it doesn't seem to be a massive deterrent!
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