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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Following last year's regeneration of Harringay Town Centre, last night, along with other members of the LCSP traffic sub-group, I attended a meeting with Haringey Council's new traffic supremo (Member for the Environment, Cllr Stuart McNamara). Cllr McNamara agreed to review traffic management across all areas of Harringay (and yes that's Harringay, not Haringey). 

There is a public meeting to kick off the process and discuss traffic congestion, rat running and high traffic flow in local roads. All are invited to attend. Details are below:

Cyprus Kitchen on Wednesday 25 March from 6:30pm to 7:30pm

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Seriously though, one hour's not a lot of time

It's just a kick-off meeting.

Ask why Haringey's Local Plan (currently open for consultation) is proposing to facilitate the use of Wightman Road for non-residential through traffic (page 45 here: http://www.haringey.gov.uk/sites/haringeygovuk/files/site_allocatio...)

Grant can you help me with understanding you concern. I'm very aware of various past attempts to increase Wightman Road's use as part of an unofficial Wood Green bypass, but I'm clearly not seeing what you do on Page 45 of the Local Plan. What I read is:

At the moment Hornsey Park Road carries much of the traffic from Wightman Rd going north/south to and from central London. Mary Neuner Way should be able to carry all of the traffic associated with the new development of this area, as well as some traffic currently using Hornsey Park Rd, and a restructuring of the junction amendments at the junction with Turnpike Lane will facilitate this. 

This seems to me to be about shifting traffic off Hornsey Park Road. I can't see how it will increase traffic on Wightman. What am I missing?

If someone wants to reduce traffic on Wightman Road then the first thing to do is to change the junction at the North end. It needs to be narrowed down & slowed down, to reduce the attractiveness of Wightman.

At the moment it gives the impression that Wightman is a huge road, see this from Street view:

https://goo.gl/maps/mevMv

I am very sold on this argument. I used to think you would need road narrowing barriers like in Islington but just making it a normal junction would be a great help.

Hi Hugh. I did not read that as shifting traffic off HPR, more using Mary Neuner Way as additional capacity, and the de facto promotion of Wightman as a bypass. As everyone knows, increasing road capacity merely induces more demand and makes existing traffic problems worse, in this case with consequent knock-on effects to surrounding neighbourhoods where this traffic will end up. I find it quite disappointing that, at a time where London and Haringey are coping with real health problems directly related to excess road traffic, Haringey's long-term plan is not the removal of non-residential through traffic to promote happier and healthier communities, but more of the same traffic-choked streets.

Mary Neuner Rd was not intended as an alternative to Hornsey Park. It was for the council to get access to their car impounding and recycling facilities without having to go via Wood Green. Long term it will no doubt be used by construction traffic on the Heartlands project and then will revert to a sleepy little road that only people who live on it use.

The Site Allocations document includes repeated references to a 'pedestrian and cycle crossing' of Mary Neuner Rd, suggesting that someone has big plans for this road as a traffic thoroughfare (you hardly need a dedicated crossing for that road now). I'd be less bothered if there was a parallel suggestion to close Hornsey Pk Rd to through traffic. But the game here seems to be to induce more traffic to use this area, with obvious knock-on effects to adjoining neighbourhoods.

'Last years regeneration'???

have i missed something?

Yes.

The first item mentioned on the meeting notice is 'No-Right Turn' at the junction of Hewitt Road and Green Lanes.

This change brought long sought welcome relief to residents of Hewitt Road and its seems reversing this is on the agenda.

I would urge all the residents of Hewitt Road to attend the meeting and also write to the Traffic Management urging them not to reverse the 'No Right Turn' restriction.

Ahson

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