Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Proposed development of 5 storey block on Langham Close
There is a current planning application to add 2 extra storeys to the existing 3 storey 1930s block on Langham close (near the bus station).
Comments on the planning application can be made at:
http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/Applica...
I'm a fan of modern architecture, but personally I think this looks terrible. Just adding a few more storeys to an existing block seems a particularly lazy and cynical way to maximise profit with minimum expenditure. Also it looks particularly bad for the many houses that the new floors will overlook.
Comments are open until 6th December.
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Permalink Reply by Rory on
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Good luck with this, chaps. The Hampden Road development broke all of Haringey and London's planning rules and saw massive objections from residents, businesses and the mosque. With a smaller development vetoed a few years before for being too tall and out of character. There was a meeting, where planners refused to listen to representatives who had just a few minutes to put their point across, while the PR machine of the developers enacted a months-long, hugely expensive campaign which or course, ultimately proved successful. You can see this building towering over the Ladder from every house in every street, pretty much. It does rather feel that Haringey's residents don't have much of a voice now over new developments.
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What hasn't been mentioned is that there is actually a permitted development right for this style of development - under Schedule 2, Part 20, Class A of the GPDO, subject to certain criteria, there is a procedure for "New dwellinghouses on detached blocks of flats".
The criteria are convoluted - but in essence, outside of certain areas (including Conservation Areas and land near airports) you can add one or two storeys to blocks of flats of three or more storeys (up to a maximum new height of 30 metres) built between 1948 and 2018. It would therefore be difficult to refuse planning permission, if the developer could effectively resubmit the scheme as a prior approval application, where you can only assess a scheme against the criteria in the legislation, and not the Local Plan.
In any case, if there wasn't an existing building on the (very well located) site, you could quite reasonably expect a proposal noticeably taller than 5 storeys anyway.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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What if it was built before 1938?
Aerial shot from 1938 (Britian from Above)
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That particular PD right was written so that anything already existing when the current planning system was first introduced is excluded. In practice this means that much of Harringay's building stock wouldn't qualify for it (or similar rights of upward extension above mixed use buildings and houses).
Developers with pre-1948 buildings could quote the NPPF though, which gives support for upwards extensions in paragraph 118(e).
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So, one way or another, their bases are covered?
I have no particularly strong views about this development. But, permitted development rights seem to give us only a foretaste of the much more radical planning shake-up they foreshadow.
The inconvenient views of residents seem to be destined to be brushed even more casually aside than we've been used to in our lifetimes.
I suppose we'd better get used to it or get fighting.
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The policy support in the NPPF is more nuanced - effectively it is used to guide what Local Plans should include, as well as being used to support decision making (especially if a Local Plan is silent on a particular topic, or out of date), and might be contraindicated by other policy considerations.
As far as permitted development rights go, upward extensions are probably of far less concern than, for example, the potential of permitted development rights for Use Class E (i.e. mos...
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