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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020 ... so Wightman Rd ...

 ... can surely be closed to through traffic in the future, as it currently is during the bridge works. If the planners can deal with the re-routing of all those buses and taxi journeys away from Oxford Street for the pedestrianisation plans, it must be possible to do this for Wightman Road as well.

Living Wightman would do well to have a chat with the new Mayor's office.

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They can ask for whatever they like - I've asked Santa for a Maserati for Christmas but that ain't gonna happen either. Without a valid Traffic Management Order the Council can't legally keep Wightman Road closed....and I would be the first organising crowd funder funding to challenge them in the Courts if they tried.

I think TMOs can be extended for up to 18 months or else a new one introduced for experimental or other reasons.

A TMO can only be extended if the purpose of the extension is the same as the original Order. If the bridge works were delayed for example. A new purpose requires a new Order and that requires proper consultation with ALL residents not just a vocal minority. That consultation process, even if they adopted the closure of Wightman Road as a policy (which they are very unlikely to) would take months and the curgent TMO expires in 5 weeks.

"not just a vocal minority" Indeed....

There are 267,500 people living in Haringey... How many people live in/around Wightman Rd that support its permanent closure?

How many people live in Harringay that support the permanent closure of: Hermitage Rd, The Gardens, most of Islington, Crouch End, Wood Green?

Honestly, you're just a typical contrarian.

No but yeah but no but....

John - Gardens residents have been subjected to considerable criticism on HoL from some Ladder residents alleging they had/have undue influence on the council or councillors that enabled their road closures in the first place, because their "selfish" action forced traffic onto Green Lanes or even - lawks! - the Ladder. Doesn't this precisely highlight the fundamental problem: tinkering with one bit of the road system causes problems and distress to neighbouring streets. Until and unless there's a whole-area solution, it's not going to be resolved. 

I thought one of the major points of having a Harringay wide traffic survey was to get away from local pressure groups lobbying the council for changes to their individual streets. It is supposed to be looking at the bigger picture and finding solutions that benefit as many of us as possible.

Obviously we don't know what was in the document Living Wightman sent to the council, but I asked the council a while ago and they told me exactly what Antoinette is saying - legally they can't keep the current road blocks once the work on the bridge is finished.

There's nothing wrong with lobbying, Julie. Unless it comes with undue influence, it's perfectly respectable.

The aim of the traffic study is to put a whole lot more 'science' into any traffic management decision-making.

The Gardens closure was a Labour selection meeting fix, that's why I regard them as the most important meetings around here.

Antoinette - Don’t worry about not getting the Maserati; as we know from this discussion, it’s socially irresponsible to use anything other than a pedal cycle (with a trailer for 2.4 children, heavy shopping, recycling material, charity shop deliveries, Ikea furniture, aged parents on a day out, etc, of course) in the “local” streets of Harringay, so you probably wouldn’t be allowed to do anything other than park it outside on bricks and admire it if Santa answered your wish! 



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